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  • what is the correct way to erect a large freestanding sign?

    Posted by Jon Fields on 16 July 2005 at 22:27

    I have yet another freestanding sign to quote on and any help appreciated.
    Customer would like 2 x 4ft x 4ft freestanding signs, approx 6ft off the floor..after adding up poles, clips, etc it’s a fair price…
    so i thought perhaps to offer 4 square posts , perhaps 3" square and then to screw dibond onto the posts.questions is will this be supported ok in the
    middle of the sign ok, or should I try and back it /strenghten it? if so what with? Hope this all makes sense..Is there another or better way of achieving this.

    thanks

    JON

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  • Shane Drew

    Member
    17 July 2005 at 00:34

    I may be missing something here but a 4′ x 4’wide sign (1200mm x 1200mm) would need a post at each end, and 3 diagnal (timber?) strips across. Top, bottom and middle. This would be bracing as well as prevent any sagging in the middle.

    As long as you dig a deep enough hole, 1/4 below and 3/4 above, (although to be really sure – 1/3 down, 2/3 up) with plenty on concrete, any other bracing should not be required.

    Hope that helps
    Shane

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    17 July 2005 at 11:22

    what you have done there mate is to frown upon what “you” are going to have to pay out to get this job. we all hate paying out allot, but thats were large markups come in and rightly so.
    if i have it wrong and its your customer skrimping on price. then birl the table on him… tell him if he wants it done right its one price but if he wants to just have a sign up and take his chances its another price.
    forget the square posts and dibond face. dibond and the like, is too soft a material to have pressure put on its fixings if a floating panel. screws/rivvets etc will tear thru the sheet. if this is the way your going make sure you have large/broad heads on the fixings. this is were fixings like tech bolts beat the rest. the head is about .7 diametre and has metal with rubber washers to allow movement of the panel without tearing into it.
    do it proper, use road sign poles. plastic coated, panel, channel rail and clips. concrete in ground.
    or cheap option…
    4×4 posts constructed to form two posts with horizontal straps & some angled sections to rear of legs to give support against high winds. then screw your panel into place. still use concrete/post-fix though

    hope this helps

  • Jon Fields

    Member
    17 July 2005 at 21:41

    Thanks Shane & Robert for your replies..
    Rob..I suppose it’s a bit of both really..customer has been waiting for a local sign company to “finish” what they started..quite a poor looking post design approx 2″ x1″ posts that have been welded together, but no sign as yet..also it’s on a lean..so I have already told them I want it removing if they go with myself..but as always..cust can get a “better deal”..(probably cheaper) elsewhere..I can only think whoever may have done this job would have used dibond and screwed through..because there is no space clips etc..
    Can i ask some advice here as I know you have fitted many of these signs, I have also studied your demo on such signage. but yet to bite the bullet and fit one..
    what size post would you suggest..current height is 93inches from the ground so im assuming there is 24 inches below the ground, cust wants this an extra 24inches taller than existing..the sign is only 4ft square but cust wants it higher so as not to obscure any vision from the road..
    Hope I explained it all ok..

    thanks in advance

    Jon

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