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Posted by Stephen Ingham on 17 February 2005 at 20:07

Hi all, just finished this today, nothing special, except its the highest one we’ve done; using a cherry picker

whilst we were assembling the frames back at the workshop, using the demo that rob did we stumbled across an idea to assist a single person to mount the frame onto the wall and fix in place.

I have done a quick drawing to try and explain it.

basically we drilled a couple of oval holes in the frame uprights, drilled and plugged the holes in the wall, loosely screwed a screw into each hole, lifted the frame up and mounted it onto the screws; TEMPORARILY HELD IN PLACE, now my hands are free to drill and screw the rest of the mounting holes

this is an old trick used by you seasoned sign fitters, i’m sure??

cheers
stephen

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Kevin Flowers replied 20 years, 9 months ago 8 Members · 15 Replies
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Peter Normington

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17 February 2005 at 21:03

How I do it is similar but gives more leeway, I just fix to bits of angle alli or chanel, or even a bit of wood to the wall, each side of the centre of the sign and level, then just place the frame on it no need to be dead acurate drilling the holes as long as its level.
Another tip to get the sign up there when working one man in the basket , is to cover 2 pieces of 12mm bar with hose pipe or similar, bend into an s shape then hang the sign from the bottom and onto the cherry picker cage.
peter
Stephen Ingham

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17 February 2005 at 21:07

theres me thinking i had come up with a new idea, back to the drawing board then.

stephen
Peter Normington

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17 February 2005 at 21:09

like this

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Stephen Ingham

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17 February 2005 at 21:19

this is how i did it

a couple of pieces of wood on outer edges of basket, bunjee strapped, then the frame is simply rested on the wood, the basket is lifted up into position, right next to the wall and the frame is slid into place

stephen

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Peter Normington

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17 February 2005 at 21:24

simple but effective, but the hooks also work for solid signs in ali foam or whatever and after you lift the frame they work for the panel
dont cost owt and i use them all the time.
Peter
Robert Lambie

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17 February 2005 at 21:25

good tip peter,, tried and tested that one for years now.. works a treat… 😛

on the two bars running down to feet we cover the metal with pipe foam, this prevents any rocking/knocking of the signs against it that can cause damage.

stephen..
it is a good tip mate. especially if your on your own mate.
i sue the same one as you when we are fixing 3/4 inch ply sheeting to walls from the cherry picker and thats two men…
the job we had was four sheets of wood making a 16foot x 8 foot sign.
getting these in position was one thing but getting them all perfectly inline was another.
what i did was to mount a length of angle bar on the wall were the bottom of the sign would be… once in place and perfectly level. we simply went up and sat each sheet of wood onto the angle bar. once all fixed. we removed the angle bar. job done…
Peter Normington

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17 February 2005 at 22:16

also if using a cherry picker, you must have 2 men at least, it can be very embarassing if the engine stops and you’re left stranded on the 3rd floor
Phill Fenton

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17 February 2005 at 22:24

Thanks for the tip Stephen. A very elegant and simple solution to make the first fix on a frame as effortless as possible.

I must admit that I have always struggled to get the first fixing in place whenever I hang a frame (this usually involves holding the frame with one hand whilst trying to fit a screw into a pre-drilled hole with the other – three hands would be useful but I somehow manage with only two). Your solution is simple and effective. 😀 Even though I’ve been doing it for years – I never thought of doing it this way 😳
John Singh

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17 February 2005 at 22:42

Thanks Steve for sharing

Some of us old uns might have a few tricks similar but its great when we share those tricks here with new ones (and old ones)

Another way is to pre screw brackets with a lip
(Looks like a coat hook – the flat type)

Its merely to take the weight of the sign whilst you make the final adjustments but it can actually stay put if you desire

Or you can pre screw 2″ x 1″ battons across and rest the top bar of the sign on that

No harm in sharing and learning from others Steve
Look forward to more of your suggestions

John 😀
Robert Lambie

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17 February 2005 at 23:10

quote Peter Normington:

also if using a cherry picker, you must have 2 men at least, it can be very embarassing if the engine stops and you’re left stranded on the 3rd floor

:lol1: too true peter, but our cherry picker has a button that starts the engine if it stalls or something when your up.
having said that. never any less than two for a cherry picker job. 😀
Robert Lambie

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17 February 2005 at 23:11

stephen thats not actually how i did it after seeing your drawings mate, another good tip.. thank you 😉
Peter Normington

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17 February 2005 at 23:45

not talking about a stall rob, but more when the engine goes kaput.
or even runs out of diesel, buttons don’t help then.
Shane Drew

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18 February 2005 at 11:49

quote Peter Normington:

not talking about a stall rob, but more when the engine goes kaput.
or even runs out of diesel, buttons don’t help then.

Cherry pickers here have a manual release that allows you to release the pressure, allowing gravity to drop you slowly.

Having said that, it is against the law here to use a cherry picker without someone on the ground as a lookout for electricity cable and the like.

Cheers
John Childs

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18 February 2005 at 13:14

Working at height?

That’s what subbies are for!

😀
Kevin Flowers

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18 February 2005 at 23:03

Hi guys
i normally drill the wall just under the inner edge of the top rail screw in two 4inch screws and hang frame on these level and insert fixings through frame. remove screws and insert panels

Kev