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    Posted by Liam Caulfield on 17 December 2004 at 16:07

    wee! Just finished a van for a friend of mine. I don’t do many signs as Im tending to focus on t’s alot more. But he asked me to do it so I said yes.

    Whoops.

    It took AGES!!! I know we f*cked about alot and went to the pub which meant slow morning starts (ok it was afternoon starts) but it still took us about 18 hours to do it. Crazy.

    Dunno if the styling is to most peoples taste, but it was intended to stand out, the zebra stripes on the side are actually reflective, cool! Reflective black, looks smart at night.

    Don’t even start me on the chevrons, never again. Well not how I did them anyway, first the yellow ones, then I put the red on. Is there a better way?

    And all cut on my trusty antique Graphtec FC2100-50.


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    Shane Drew replied 20 years, 11 months ago 9 Members · 22 Replies
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  • Liam Caulfield

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    17 December 2004 at 16:08

    more!


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  • Andrew Bennett

    Member
    17 December 2004 at 16:18

    It looks like a blooming good job from where I’m sat mate 😀

  • Clive Martinez

    Member
    17 December 2004 at 17:17

    If your t shirts are as good as the van… you have a winning formula….

    nice job

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    17 December 2004 at 17:21

    nice one that will certainly stand out , was it your idea to use mostly reflectve ? we use quite a bit of reflective but haven’t used black yet

    Good job

    Lynn

  • Martin Pearson

    Member
    17 December 2004 at 18:26

    Nice job, everything people need to know is there and it will get noticed, especially this time of the year when it gets dark earlier with all that reflective on it. I have to agree as well, black does look good at night. Chevrons, I’m glad you asked because I would like to know as well, I mark a line at the angle where the first stripe is to go and just work my way from that alternating colours, I’m sure there must be an easier way. Robert will probably tell us how we should be doing it.
    One question, is that ordinary orange vinyl or is it floreusent?

  • John Singh

    Member
    17 December 2004 at 20:27

    On reflection it looks great.

    18 hrs?

    Just think! If you could have legged it out for another 6 hours you could say you were offering folks a 24hr service!

    Well done!

    John

  • Bill Dewison

    Member
    17 December 2004 at 21:23
    quote johnalphasign:

    Just think! If you could have legged it out for another 6 hours you could say you were offering folks a 24hr service!

    Good one! :lol1:

    Nice job Liam 😀 Bet you’re a bit tired after that one though! 😮

    Cheers, Dewi

  • Shane Drew

    Member
    17 December 2004 at 23:38

    Reflective black shows up orange at night doesn’t it? Only used it once many moons ago.

    When it comes to pulling the stuff off, make sure your busy that week. It will take you more than a few beers to get thru it 😕

    Excellent job mate.

    Cheers
    Shane

  • John Singh

    Member
    17 December 2004 at 23:41

    Just noticed on the back of the van its says:

    24hour Bike Rescue

    If you’ve got to wait that blinkin’ long you might as well walk home

  • Andy Gorman

    Member
    17 December 2004 at 23:46

    That’s a top job you’ve done Liam.

    For a one off, constructing the chevrons using stripes on the van is probably the easiest way. If you ever get an order for more than one of the same vehicle a good and quicker way is to make a template of the rear and use this as a jig to pre cut all the pieces in advance.

    Shane, all the black reflective I’ve used reflects white, which means you have to be careful where you put it on a vehicle.

  • Shane Drew

    Member
    17 December 2004 at 23:55
    quote big G:

    Shane, all the black reflective I’ve used reflects white, which means you have to be careful where you put it on a vehicle.

    That is interesting BIg G, do your road laws have the same rules as we do here, that you can not use reflective white on the back of a vehicle, and reflective red on the front?

    just curious

  • Andy Gorman

    Member
    17 December 2004 at 23:58

    Yes. Reflective material is treated as a lamp and must follow the same rules. No white on rear, no red or orange on front.

    Andy

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    18 December 2004 at 00:05

    Shane, as far as I am aware there are no laws in the uk that restricts the use of reflective vinyl, lights are a different thing, but it is good practise to use red for rear white for front, and all the other colours on the side,
    Local police forces can specify what they need for recovery vehicles if the expect to get a contract, and ambulances and police cars have to comply with certain regs, but everybody else can do what they like. I stand to be corrected on this 😀
    Peter
    nothing changes, it just goes round in circles

  • Andy Gorman

    Member
    18 December 2004 at 00:14

    Stand up Peter, I’m correcting you. At least, 2 years ago when I did old bill cars for a living, PSDB specs stated that white should not be used on the rear of any vehicle. Numerous Police fleet managers confirmed this to me. Reflective vinyl is treated as a lamp.

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    18 December 2004 at 00:20

    Andy,
    did a bit of research into this, ( had a mad cutomer that wanted white reflective on the arce of his van) Can you point me to the relevant section in the highway code or hansards? I could not find any specific traffic law that relates to reflective.
    Peter

  • Andy Gorman

    Member
    18 December 2004 at 00:48

    Wouldn’t know where to point you Peter. I worked from PSDB documents supplied to me by the home office. I’ll tell you who does usually know a lot about this subject: the fleet manager at your local old bill station. They know the regs inside out and are usually pretty helpful in giving advice. It is the law you’re trying to adhere to, after all. Might be worth a call.

  • Shane Drew

    Member
    18 December 2004 at 00:51

    Same here Andy, reflective anything (badges, Tape, etc) are treated as lamps on any vehicle here in OZ.

    Thanks for that.

  • John Singh

    Member
    18 December 2004 at 00:54

    Think we need someone to shed more light on this

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    18 December 2004 at 00:59

    andy,
    point is the old bill dont make the laws, parliament do.
    The police will give advice but will not tell you the law, if they think they can prosecute for an infringement they will.
    By putting white reflective on the rear of a vehicle as far as i can determine, (and I still stand to be corrected) Is not against any law, just against recomendations.
    Peter

  • Andy Gorman

    Member
    18 December 2004 at 01:08

    OK Peter, put it this way. Why is it possible to be pulled over by plod for having a cracked side light? Because white light is showing. And light should reflect (pun unintended) the direction of travel. You should only see white light on the rear of a vehicle if it is reversing. I can’t point you at the correct legal paper on this, but I have been informed by many Police Fleet Managers that reflective material is treated the same as a lamp. I would advise any customer against having white or black reflective on the back of a vehicle because I know what will happen – they will come whinging to me when they get pulled over.

    On a similar note, I recently purchased some illuminated magnetic roof signs for a pizza delivery service. The bloke at the supplier told me that it is standard for these to come with the rear of the sign covered in red translucent for the exact same reason.

    Andy

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    18 December 2004 at 01:18

    andy,
    dont want to get into a protracted argument, all i am saying is that i looked into it and could not find a law that stated reflective vinyl should be treated as a light, or white reflective should not be used on the rear.
    Dont give a toss really, I just do what customer wants, at the end off the day he gets nicked, not me, all I do is advise against putting white on the back for common sense reasons.
    Peter

    nothing changes, it just goes round in circles

  • Shane Drew

    Member
    18 December 2004 at 01:38

    Andy’s interpretation is also as I understand it here. It is probably based on the same standards.

    Here tho’ if the client is pulled over by the police, the company applying it can also expect a visit from the boys in blue. The police, afterall, enforce the law that parliments makes.

    The requirement has something to do with ‘duty of care’. I will not apply it even if the clients insists on it. End of the day, if you stand your ground they will usually back down. No one wants a run in with the law if they have too.

    They can use any reflective colour on the rear except white (or black it seams), and any reflective on the front except red.

    Your solicitor should be able to pin point the legislation, especially if they specialise in traffic law.

    Just my 2c’s

    Cheers

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