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Pantone colour 7545c
I have been asked to provide some signs in pantone 7545c blackberry, does anyone have the formula for this colour, i surfed the net for it but came up with a colour that is apparently completely wrong. Thanks in advance.
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Hi,
On my pantone swatch 7545c is a grey colour, and the pantone colour split is C33;M6;Y0;K71. If you are looking for a blackberry colour, I think you have given the wrong number.
I would recommend that you get a Pantone Solid to Process guide. They cost about £ 80, but unlike a normal pantone swatch, they have both the CYMK colour split and a sample of the process colour next to the pantone so you can see how close a match you can achieve using CYMK. It can save you a lot of time trying to improve a colour match that you can’t achieve….
Best Regards,
Mike Antrum.
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Looks like a grey to me but the cmyk values when converted are 23c 8m 0y 48b. But this will change and need to be tweeked dependent upon the output device.
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Welcome to customers references and the dreaded pantone numbers!
I have never had one that matches, we are also screen printers and sent pantone references with samples to match from head office other printers work who (if its dark blue, just use any dark blue in any of the tins in the corner) of course sharks in this trade won’t pay 50% extra for a pantone mix, and guess what? the number never matches their reference.
Which makes the correct pantone colour…incorrect, if you know what I mean.In my opinion pantone is an overated, expensive pile of junk, match to physical, real samples of the colour expected by your customer through your ink / supplier and save yourself a lot of cash on the way and not a silly little number someone has given you and will tell you on completion …its the wrong colour.
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my thoughts exactly outline!! 😀 😀
only because when i started screenprinting all these years ago, pantone was around!! but it was easy to match!! then the graphic designers appeared in a big way!!most printers and graphic designers are not trained in layout and colouring regarding screenprinting!! so all the 20% here and there is just a blip to me!!
pantone is fab if you mix straight from the swatch!!
hope that made sense!!
Nik
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Thanks for your help, I have asked the customer to check that they have given me the right no. I suspect not so I will have to ask for a sample to match to. Mike where can I get the colour guide from?
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quote niknaxpc:pantone is fab if you mix straight from the swatch!!
Nik
Good Morning Nik, I normally just get a number given me, the ink supplier ‘always’ says hmmm don’t know what that is, is it a dark blue, no its light blue, I end up back and too, so in the end I get (if possible, I know it’s not always possible) a piece of the colour already printed, mail it to the ink supplier, it comes back matched to the customers piece, stops me wasting time waiting for phone calls about those horrible little pantone numbers 😕
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Pantone is great BUT it should never be adhered to as the last word on colour matching, there are sooo many variables when using pantone, the process used to produce the print, screenprint, litho, letterpress, digital etc. etc. then you have the substrates to take into account coated, uncoated, screenprint vinyl, digital vinyl, the colour of the substrates not all whites are the same, these will always affect the way the colur prints.
Outline if I were you i’d do a sample of the colour (when you get the right one 🙂 ) show it to the customer and say “right mate thats the colour it comes out and is a faithfull reproduction on my materials using the equipment I have. and under your breath “if you don’t like it you can shove it you pedantic **nker! 😀 😀
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Outline
Im still not clear if you have to match the colour you need in screen, digital, or litho??
If screen print then a Pantone book would be the best thing to have,
it has a break down of what colours you need to match any PantoneColour!
You can get CYMK values in screen print but it is far easier to match in traditional, more opaque colours.I don;t understand why you would send any PMS colour queiries to an ink supplier? Do you not mix any special colours yourselves? Dosn’t it cost alot of money for an ink supplier to match a colour for you?
I can’t comment on that PMS no. you stated as I’m not in the office but I am intrigued to know so I will check Monday!
I have been out of Screen for years but still stock Sericol inks for curtain trailers and occasionally for rolling vinyl to a certain colour.If you are struggling then send me a message I’ll match it for you, I used to do it in my sleep 😮
I could probably even do it over the phone if you have some basic colours.Having said all that I would normally, try and pursade the fussy freds
to have a nearest match vinyl if I can, especially if its going to be a repeat, on going job!What kind of job is it then??
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Whoops
This reply should of been to Martin, sorry!
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Pantone is great, tell someone over the phone, i want pantone 224c they know what colour you want.. “Pink”..
All the screen printers and places that use ink or paint that I know, can match colours by eye, and get an exact match. A very skilled job which takes years of practise and if they can’t do this I would steer well clear as there printing would properly be very poor quality.
I think there are too many people trading that don’t have a clue, have never worked for a sign company and don’t understand the importance of corporate colour schemes.
They go out and buy all this new printing machinery, but don’t know how to use it.
Then when they can’t get the machine to match the colour (because its not been set up right) they blame the client or the file they sent.Most of the sign companies I have ever worked for had blue chip clients, how can you tell “Barclays Bank or BP” I couldn’t match your corporate colours sorry. (That’s last time you would hear from them).
Pantone has been around years it’s a universal way of getting the exact same colour without seeing a sample of it.
How many times have you gone round to see a sign maker or whatever and ask them to do a colour match, out comes a pantone book that’s thirty years old and faded beyond belief? (Pantone book should be changed yearly)If I have a client that wants an exact colour, I tell them I can match it as close as possible from my vinyl range or they will have to pay a premium for it to be matched exactly, they normally go for the cheaper option and closest matching vinyl colour
If I give someone a pantone reference to be match, that’s the colour that should arrive.
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quote Simon C:Pantone is great, tell someone over the phone, i want pantone 224c they know what colour you want.. “Pink”..
Maybe works great if you’ve been supplied a valid number or not one with added alien letters, mistyped emails or one that has had the Chinese Whispers effect.
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quote martin armitage:Mike where can I get the colour guide from?
Any ink supplier or your sign consumable supplier will have pantone books
just make sure you’re sitting down when being told the price.
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quote Steve Broughton:Outline if I were you i’d do a sample of the colour (when you get the right one 🙂 ) show it to the customer and say “right mate thats the colour it comes out and is a faithfull reproduction on my materials using the equipment I have. and under your breath “if you don’t like it you can shove it you pedantic **nker! 😀 😀
Yes Steve I agree, doesn’t help when I’m supplied a number which I have a customers sample in front of me which is dark blue and the pantone is teal, turns out the head offices printer has thought bugger it, we’ll print it with any colour we have leftover, causing headaches with everyone.
Then there’s little bits of letters which seem to arrive from nowhere and nobody can decipher.cheers
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You can get the Pantone Solid to Process guide from
http://www.colourmatters.co.uk
Personnally, I think that anyone with a digital printer should invest in one of these. It is difficult enough to match a colour anyway, so if you don’t know what you are aiming for.
They costs under £ 80 + VAT, so in the great scheme of things they are not so expensive.
Happy Prunting !
Mike[/quote]
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quote Mike Antrum:You can get the Pantone Solid to Process guide from
They costs under £ 80 + VAT, so in the great scheme of things they are not so expensive.
Mike
If I supply pantone numbers to my ink supplier its exactly the same price per kg as if I send sample for matching, therefore a saving of £80+ VAT
plus the added advantage of less rubbish in the offices.
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