• Bill Dewison

    Member
    25 May 2004 at 20:25

    Doesn’t look too bad that one, and for the money they want, a bargain! 😀

    Only thing I’d enquire about is what type of blades it uses, and where you can purchase them from. It may be compatible with an existing major manufacturers blade, so its worth a check.

    One other thing though, and this may be a silly one, but you have checked its 240volts? Just I noticed it was in Euro’s and those bizarre ppl use a 110volt system. Things tend to go bang bang when you plug them in 🙁 As I say, you’ve probably checked this already, but I thought it was worth a mention 😀

    24″ as opposed to your existing 15″ tho, should see you being able to do a wider variety of stuff and with you doing vehicles, should come in mighty handy 😀

    Cheers, Dewi

  • evo1v

    Member
    25 May 2004 at 21:15

    Dewi wrote..24″ as opposed to your existing 15″ tho, should see you being able to do a wider variety

    Hope that was intended, a real cracker!

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    25 May 2004 at 21:28

    i have learned that some machines may look the part but the motor, parts etc are not upto scratch. a bit like buying a nice new lada, only for 3 months later it wont start in the snow 😆 .. ok bad one 😳

    anyway. your buying in, but what kind of after sales support, compatable parts etc do you get with it?
    a stand is not everything. it can easible be knocked up in 30 mins with some MDF.. i have never heard of this make of machine, that is why i am wary of it. sorry..

    for a few hundred more you will get a new summa, graphtec, roland etc…

  • semacc

    Member
    26 May 2004 at 04:46

    Europe uses 220 volt – it’s the US that uses 110 volts.

    John

  • Bill Dewison

    Member
    26 May 2004 at 07:26

    Hi and welcome John 😀 Not like most first posts, but at least my daftness broke the silence 😉 You’re probably right with the whole 220v thing, I saw the 2 pin plug and assumed that they were using 110v 😳

    Ah well 🙄 least it prompted you to say hello 😀

    Cheers, Dewi

  • simplesigns

    Member
    27 May 2004 at 16:52

    Thanks for your advice guys.

    I thought this cutter looked too good to be true. I take Roberts point about poor quality components.

    I expect you’ve all been asked this a 1000 times before but which 24″ cutter would you recommend?

    I haven’t got very deep pockets, is it worth considering 2nd hand?

  • David-Foster-

    Member
    27 May 2004 at 19:13

    Hi
    The usual suspects are Graphtec CE3000-60, Summa D60 and Roland CX-24. I had narrowed down to those choices and then came across Ioline plotters. Biggest seller in USA and with the dollar exchange rate at the moment good value.

    http://www.ioline.co.uk

    and click on Latest Deals A…

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    27 May 2004 at 19:22

    yep.. roland, graphtec and summa seem to be the favoured choice of cutters. i run roland and graptec machines. i favour graphtec for several reasons though..

    buying second hand or abroad can save you money, but you must look into after sales/service etc.
    its easy to buy a good machine second hand, but its motor maybe on its way out.. then your stung 😕
    im always of the opinion that you should spend a little more for peice of mind. especially on something like a cutter, as this is the tool you will be doing almost all your work on at some point each day… 😉

  • Joe Mac

    Member
    7 July 2004 at 00:00

    Hi all, my first post of what I’m sure will be many…

    I am new to the vinyl word and cutters (so new that i don’t even have one yet!), but I’ve been looking around and I’m 90% certain to buy a Secabo 24″ machine -mostly due to price and features.

    I first found out about these machines on ebay, and the company that sells them also sell Summacut machines as well as others.

    If Simplesigns is wary of these machines or the seller, I’d suggest he takes a look at their feedback (search for holymolymoly to find them) as they sell all over the world, and have lots of positive feedback. The company’s website is http://www.selectstore.co.uk

    I’ve emailed them several questions and they have been helpful and fairly prompt. They also do cash on delivery in case you think it’s not going to turn up!

    My choices were a Creative CT360 (?) – which was a cheapie import from the States, a Roland PNC 1000 for £500 with no questions asked or the Secabo for just under a grand.

    The advice I have been given is that it’s hard to beat the specs of the Secabo, but as it’s a new product people are wary… I hope this post makes some sense!

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    7 July 2004 at 00:20

    cant get the link to work mate.. tried the .com version too 😕

    i havent heard of them, nor tried them, so cant comment.
    ill try find more info on the machine.

  • Joe Mac

    Member
    7 July 2004 at 00:56

    It’s down at the mo Robert….I’d try in the morning.

    They’ve some auctions on ebay, just not in this country.

    Here’s a link:

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? … %3AIT&rd=1

    I should be on commish!

  • Peter Shaw

    Member
    11 July 2004 at 17:53

    I had a look at the Secabo equipment on the web site. There’s not a lot of detail there and no mention of service. While I no nothing about Secabo or SelectStore and therefore have nothing negative to say, I would suggest you think very carefully. If it should break down how long will it take to get repaired? When you are running a business based on this piece of kit, can you afford to take the chance?

    My preference would be to negotiate the best price on one of the major brands which are fully supported in the UK. While you’re doing this, apply for and get a credit card with 6 months interest free to cover the extra cost in instalments.

    The other thing to check out is whether there are any import duties, taxes etc to pay on the Secabo.

  • Mike Rogers

    Member
    11 July 2004 at 19:08

    One other thing to consider is the included software which may be rubbish. The deals in the Uk can include some industry standard software.

    I suppose if you bought UK software the machine would be universal HPGL or something like that and could be upgraded. If you had to upgrade to something decent software wise can add £500 – £1000 plus to your cutter price

    If the machine is imported there could be 10% import duties and VAT (although if from Germany I suppose the difference between their VAT and ours if any)

  • Mike Rogers

    Member
    11 July 2004 at 19:16

    Just noticed as well the cutting speed is only 300mm per second which appears to be quite slow as 600mm per second seems the norm on basic machines here in UK.

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