• Mutoh Cutters

    Posted by joest on 23 May 2004 at 12:10

    Does anyone have experience of Mutoh Cutters? I want to produce identical graphics on sheets of roughly A4 size , about 200-300 at a time, and the sheeting off mechanism would seem a big advantage over hand cutting. Only Mutoh seem to offer this, but their machines seem very expensive compared to say Summa. Do they have other advantages, or does anyone have any alternative suggestions?

    joest replied 21 years, 4 months ago 6 Members · 14 Replies
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  • ldalmas

    Member
    23 May 2004 at 14:09

    mutoh cutters are good cutters but the sheetoff dose not always work it always gave me alot of trouble with many of my customers it is always sticking and when i had asked them for a solution they never gave me a good solution. I would opt for a GCC or a suma which in my opinion are much more compact and are a bit faster and the price is much lower

  • Nigel Fraser

    Member
    23 May 2004 at 17:13

    I run a Mutoh sc1300 which has been a good machine – but the sheet off feature is not something I would trust to run repeat unattended operations with. It is usefull and you always end up with a nice neat edge on the vinyl ready for your next job with no waste. Personally I would just cut them 4-up on 1220mm vinyl with a weed box on each one and in batches of say 50, then weed, tape and use the weed box to cut them up individually with a little guillotine. This is how I produce similar things anyway !!

    Nigel

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    23 May 2004 at 21:44

    just wodering here.. whats “sheet off” what does it do? 🙄

  • Nigel Fraser

    Member
    24 May 2004 at 00:58

    Rob,

    It means after the jobs cut you can go up to the plotter, press the “sheet off” button and the plotter moves to the end of the cut job and slices the material off for you right across the width of the vinyl and through the backing paper obviously too ! The head has a second blade for this purpose which runs in a slightly different place to the normal blade so it doesn’t mess up the cutting strip under the vinyl. It is really usfull although my blade has got too blunt to cut the paper backing and I don’t know where to get new ones from without paying a fortune.

    Nigel

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    24 May 2004 at 02:41

    ahh i see what you mean.
    i have seen some cutters that have a finger loop connected to a blade that you manualy pull along and it cuts of the sheet. never seen an automatic one though. 😮

    one thing though.. how would this be any use for cutting around say, an A4?
    surely it only cuts one direction…. & if your vinyl is in the machine slightly off true. it will only cut true with the machine making the slit run at an angle?

    hope that made sense 😳

  • Nigel Fraser

    Member
    24 May 2004 at 03:32

    Its only possible to cut loose “sheets” off a roll as the blade only runs left/right – so it wouldnt help you with cutting out A4 pieces for example.

    I find that using 1220 vinyl I tend to get it near enough straight in the plotter anyway just by using the “equal tension” method and of course if you sheet off at the end of each job you have a nice true leading edge to line up with the cutting strip on the plotter next time as a double check…. 🙂

    Nigel

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    24 May 2004 at 03:39

    JOEST SAID:

    quote :

    I want to produce identical graphics on sheets of roughly A4 size , about 200-300 at a time, and the sheeting off mechanism would seem a big advantage over hand cutting.

    so i guess this machine would not be that useful for the above task then mate?

  • Nigel Fraser

    Member
    24 May 2004 at 05:23

    …..no Rob it wouldn’t help at all in my opinion 😕 I guess what Joest thought was maybe you could run narrow vinyl 380mm? through and sheet off after each A4 design was cut. So you just end up with a pile of neatly cut uniform size rectangles ready to weed.
    I would stick with doing several up across the vinyl with weed boxes to use as cutting up guides after the taping is done. Running batches of 40 or 50 at a time this way doesn’t take too long to cut up afterwards in my experience.

    Nigel 😀

  • Bill Dewison

    Member
    24 May 2004 at 05:32

    I did a small run of alarm box stickers, did them in exactly the way you’re describing Nigel. Ran 5 across the vinyl, and 5 down with weed boxes, then did the next batch and so on til I had 100. Weeded then taped each sheet, then sliced them into individuals 😀

    Having an automatic cutter would be useful for large runs I guess, but I’ve taken to cutting enough off the roll to do the inidividual job. Initially I was forever changing rolls of vinyl and I got a bit fed up of it, so I decided it’d be easier to take it from the roll and load it as a sheet. Works for me, but then again I’m getting one off or short run jobs. Doubt that’d work for the larger concern 😕

    Cheers, Dewi

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    24 May 2004 at 06:08

    yeh i think ide run them like nig too dewi..
    just asking nig coz joest seems to be making this the reason for going for the only reason for going for the mutoh.

    how do you find the machine in comparison to others?
    is yours a wide one?

  • Bill Dewison

    Member
    24 May 2004 at 06:22

    Graphtec CE3000-60 and I like it 😀 Up until I tried cutting on the PC60, I didn’t really have alot to compare it with. Obviously the Graphtec is a diddy bit faster and its a little easier to load with vinyl, but then the PC60 prints so 🙄

    It does the job brilliantly though. Had some minor teething problems that could’ve been overcome with a little common sense and reading the manual, but I can honestly say it just keeps churning the work out perfectly everytime. One of the things I like about it is the way the grip rollers are engaged, nice big ole handle on the top, flick it down to load and up to lock the rollers in place. And I discovered on Friday that you can clean it whilst having a telephone conversation and eating a spag bol, all at the same time! 😀 Multi-tastic! 😉

    Cheers, Dewi

  • Carrie Brown

    Member
    24 May 2004 at 06:25

    our pc600 has automatic sheet cut, press the button it reels forward a bit and then …. slice!!! Its off all nice & neat! 😀

  • ldalmas

    Member
    24 May 2004 at 10:40

    you can first cutt normaly and then use the profile cutt feature with the blade a bit longer then normal to cutt the vinil compleetly

  • joest

    Member
    27 May 2004 at 04:27

    Thanks for all your ideas on sheeting off etc.

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