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  • 1mm PVC board supplier???

    Posted by paddy on 5 April 2004 at 10:12

    Can anyone tell me who is the best cheapest supplier for 1mm PVC board as used for makng safety signs in factories??

    The type of material is flexible gloss faced and only 1mm thich as per the signs the likes of RS Components sell.

    I have been asked to quote for a company to make all their signs in the future because most of them are custom text specific to the plant that they have around their premises.

    Do you think I can be competitive making them out of vinyl? I have my reservations.

    Darryl Seager replied 21 years, 8 months ago 7 Members · 11 Replies
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  • Chris Wool

    Member
    5 April 2004 at 10:38

    hi paddy
    bash you local suppllier on the head till he gives you a good price

    has any body tried this on the grenadier or rolands yet
    or seams like a job for the flat bed people
    or done in vinyl get control of the art work so you can design in “easy”

    chris

  • Rebecca

    Member
    5 April 2004 at 13:50

    Hi Paddy

    We do quite a lot of safety signs, obviously for the higher quantities we have to screen print them to be cost effective.

    We normally use huntsman high impact polystyrene which is a matt/gloss finish for 1mm or 1.5mm thick signs or we have also used pentawhite calendered rigid PVC sheet which comes slightly thinner than 1mm thick and costs a bit more.

    These both come in various sheet sizes and we get ours from A&P Display (part of Robert Horne Group) in Northampton. There are other branches in the country.

    If you need any quotes for screenprinting quantity runs we would be happy to help.

    Rebecca

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    5 April 2004 at 15:53

    there is lots of money in safety signs. this is one of our biggest sellers.
    the plastic you want is HIPs and im sure you can buy it from amari.
    very cheap but comes in 3 foot x 2 foot sheets
    dont try and down sell your signs.. the reason we are successful with safety signs is because we sell proper safety signs. same graphics but on alluminium & other metals. using cut vinyl for the graphics.. all short run custom stuff.
    when you point out that the cheap signs fade, spilt & crack when they go brittle they normaly change their mind and go with your proffessional opinion.
    health and safety are now starting to clamp down on cheap safety signs.
    point this out to your customer. is an accident happens and the sign has faded, they will get done for it!

  • Rebecca

    Member
    5 April 2004 at 19:55

    Paddy

    Like Robert says, this is the material to use, HIPs (High Impact Polystyrene) is the way to go. The one I mentioned Huntsman is A&P’s brand name but you can probably get similar from other suppliers.

    A&P stock 1mm in sheet sizes of 610mm x 915mm or 1372mm x 660mm.
    There is a northwest branch in Manchester or a West Midlands branch in Birmingham.

    Rebecca

  • Bill Dewison

    Member
    5 April 2004 at 21:16

    Robert, if I was to apply the safety signs to a powder coated aluminium, how would I go about pricing that? I sell printed and vinyl safety signs atm and they’re going quite well. The printed are laminated. I price the printed at around £5 and the vinyl at £7.50 (applied to foamboard). I’ve been asked about safety signs for workshops, preferably made of metal, but I was thinking I’d need steel or something along those lines.

    Cheers, Dewi

  • Andy Gorman

    Member
    5 April 2004 at 21:33

    Dew, if you only want a small quantity of metal panels you could spray them yourself. Powder coating aint expensive but it’s a pain in the bum outsourcing small quantities. Alternatively perhaps you could cover aluminium with white vinyl.

  • Nicola McIntosh

    Member
    5 April 2004 at 21:38

    i use rigid pvc!! (don’t know if it’s called the same as others!!) mentioned!!
    get it from europoint!! use it for all safety signs as thin foamex will crack & break, if hit or dropped!!

    if you use the rigid paddy, can be vinyl applyed or your cheapest bet would be screenprinted!! if large runs!!

    Nik

  • Darryl Seager

    Member
    5 April 2004 at 21:43

    Paddy, all i can comment on your original post Is
    “custom costs”

    look at the prices the ‘nationals’ are charging, get brochures from them and compare prices and sizes.
    We only do 1mm if specifically asked for otherwise it’s 3mm and above.
    most of the brochures quote ‘rigid’ in their pricing, i don’t really regard 1mm as rigid.

    darryl
    as for suppliers try Righton. good stock and deliveries spot on.

  • Nicola McIntosh

    Member
    5 April 2004 at 21:57

    darryl!! when i mentioned rigid pvc i was refering to the whole process of screenprinting as a whole!! onto rigid pvc!! 😀 as everyone here will know most products start at 1mm upwards!!

    as you quite rightly pointed out, you only start at 3mm!! 😮

    i have only been screenprinting since 1983!! did i miss something! 😮

    Nik

  • Bill Dewison

    Member
    5 April 2004 at 23:31

    Andy, I was wondering on the whole pricing thing because I like to buy things bulk, gives you haggling power. If I can work on a selling price, I can usually haggle down my supplies, although admittedly most of my supplies are that cheap, I can’t haggle anymore off! 😉 Who’s gonna sell you a roll of masking for less than 30p! 😀

    The powder coating thing, I know a few chaps locally to me who do it. Also met this great guy today who is an ally welder or something like that. He’s retired from the building game, but he makes custom gear for ppl all the time. So I was think, a few sign blanks, the odd bizarrely shaped A board and maybe even a nice hanging sign or two 😀 Either than or he could make me a lovely set of yokes from some billet 😉 Roll on the summer weather 😀

    Cheers, Dewi

  • Darryl Seager

    Member
    6 April 2004 at 18:32

    Nik,no i don’t think you missed anything!.

    All i said was that i don’t use 1mm as a’standard’ substrate for Safety Signs, the medium would not stand up to the abuse that most of my signs receive. 1mm may be fine to fix to a machine guard or to a wall in a factory enviroment,but when it comes to construction sites it doesn’t stand a chance. I probably do 80% of construction site signs on 10mm! That way the builders get to use them again(bad for me, good for them)

    There is no way i meant any of my comments in a derogatory way, so i don’t see the need for the retort “screenprinting since 1983”!!!!

    Regards
    Darryl

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