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can i use both Illustrator 9 & 10 on pc at the same time
I had upgraded to Illustrator 10 not to long ago, but left Illustrator 9 on my system.
I have in the past told people about the ability to view .ai and .eps files as thumbnails in XP basically doing away with the need for another program such a portfolio to view them. Thinking this was a handy function of XP.
Much to my dissapointment I lost this function today.
I had uninstalled Illustrator 9 thinking i don’t need both 9 & 10 on my system, how ever uninstalling this meant i lost the ability to view my files and would have to get an external viewer or result to opening every file to see what it was.
Has anyone else experianced this?? is the what is supposed to happen?? or is there something missing from my version 10 setup??
I have re-installed version 9 as it makes browsing my files so much easier. But having the two programs takes up room!
Any ideas (?)
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Hi Lorraine,
sorry I can’t help with your problem as I work mainly on Mac and win98.However I’d like to ask you a question re: Ill 9 & 10. Have you had any problems with
artwork being split into tiny pieces, so that what was once a large vector image
selectable with one click, becomes an image made up of 20 plus pieces? -
Quick reply Lorraine ‘cos I’m short of time.
I know nothing about XP, I use Macs, but I think your problem may be that you are saving files without a preview option selected.
I don’t know exactly where that preference is located and don’t have time to look for it just now, but will try to have a poke about later to see if I can find where it should be set. Of course PC and Mac preferences may be accessed differently in the two operating systems anyway.
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Lorraine,
Hope you are a computer nerd of sorts.
I just went through a major “search” mission for a work around to the fact that PS CS (8.0) doesn’t support thumbnails anymore. That information, for anyone interested, will follow after my comments on Illustrator.
The following has to do with interacting within the Registry. I provide the following for information purpose only. If you were to proceed, do so only after making a backup copy of the Registry first and only if you feel comfortable making changes within.After AI v9.x is uninstalled, verify that the following keys and values are present. Also, verify that the “aiicon.dll” file is still present on the machine and in it’s proper location (X:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\Shell\AIIcon.dll where “X” is the drive the OS was installed on)
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\.ai\ShellEx\{BB2E617C-0920-11d1-9A0B-00C04FC2D6C1}\(Default)={0C5B0CED-206B-4c39-B615-0EB23C834612}(REG_SZ)
If not present, enter and set the proper values reflected above.
Some other considerations:
- Verify that “thumbnail” is in fact set to be generated from within the OS. In an OS folder, right click on an .ai file, then select Properties, then Illustrator Thumbnail tab, and make sure a thumbnail is enabled to be generated.
- Delete the “thumbs.db” file in the particular directory you are in. This will force the OS to regenerate the database that reflects the thumbnails. This is normally a hidden file, again, only if you are confortable with this stuff should you do this.
- Not all .ai and .eps files contain thumbnails. Even if the OS is setup and registered properly, it can not display a thumbnail that is not present within the data file.
Here is the “scoop” on Photoshop CS (8.0)
The following is provided for information purpose only and requires alterations to the registry. Proceed at your own risk AFTER making a backup of the registry! If this looks like “Greek” (or is that “Geek”) to you, then DO NOT ATTEMPT TO CHANGE ANYTHING! The way it is listed below is for folks that have upgraded from PS7 to PS CS (8.x) and have performed the upgraded on top of, or installed in parallel with, PS7. Others should be able to do it as well, it just may require a little extra effort. Of course this does go on the premise that the file “psicon.dll” is present on the system and in the proper location (X:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\Shell where “X” is the drive the OS is installed) .Verify the following keys and values, or make them present with these values.
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{0B6DC6EE-C4FD-11d1-819A-00C04FB69B4D}\(Default) = Photoshop Icon Handler (REG_SZ)
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{0B6DC6EE-C4FD-11d1-819A-00C04FB69B4D}\InProcServer32\(Default) = C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\Shell\PSICON.DLL (REG_SZ)
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{0B6DC6EE-C4FD-11d1-819A-00C04FB69B4D}\InProcServer32\ThreadingModel = Apartment (REG_SZ)
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{0B6DC6EE-C4FD-11d1-819A-00C04FB69B4D}\MiscStatus\(Default) = (value not set) (REG_SZ)
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{0B6DC6EE-C4FD-11d1-819A-00C04FB69B4D}\MiscStatus\IconBits = 1 (REG_SZ)
Then you need the “shellex” structure present under HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Photoshop.Image.8. There is no entry by default, so “you” will need to create and populate it.
Perhaps the easiest way of doing this is to extract (export) the complete “shellex” from under the HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Photoshop.Image.7 entry. Remember where you have saved this registry tag (put mine on the desktop) and edit it so that each reference to HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Photoshop.Image.7 is changed to HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Photoshop.Image.8. Once that is done, simply register it (I double clicked on the icon) to the registry.
If you don’t have PS 7 installed, or the “shellex” structure isn’t present to “export”, manually create and populate the following keys and values:
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Photoshop.Image.8\shellex
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Photoshop.Image.8\shellex\IconHandler\(Default) = {0B6DC6EE-C4FD-11d1-819A-00C04FB69B4D}(REG_SZ)
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Photoshop.Image.8\shellex\PropertySheetHandlers
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Photoshop.Image.8\shellex\PropertySheetHandlers\PSDPage\(Default) = {0B6DC6EE-C4FD-11d1-819A-00C04FB69B4D} (REG_SZ)
It works and I’m happy to report I’m backing to having thumb support on all our Win XP Pro systems running PS CS (8.x) package. Time to go find what other features or items have been dropped with this “upgrade”.
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Magpie,
Have not noticed this to be the case but i will keep my eye out for it in the future.
John,
quote :I think your problem may be that you are saving files without a preview option selected.I can’t see that this is the case, as it’s all the files, all the ones that show when 9 is installed. I had thought of this though and tried saving some files in 10 but couldn’t see anywhere to tick to show/create a thumbnail.
Bob,
Very interesting and useful information, i’ll have a peak at regedit tomorrow and see what i can find.
Many thanks to all!
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Reply to Magpie’s question.
If you are working in Illustrator 10 and save the file as a version 8 or earlier file, then all text is converted to outlines and graphics are broken into their single elements. The way to avoid this is to save as a version 10 file.
Is this the problem you are getting??
Richard
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Yep thats the one Richard.
Looks like I’ll have to upgrade my home software,Shame it happend with a particularly fiddly job – arghhh 😡
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Bob,
Your reg edit seems to have done the trick on may laptop, will need to give it a go at work now.
(hot)
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Hello you guys,
Can anyone reccomend the best place to purchase Adobe photoshop & illustrator, I am looking to buy before xmas… to play wiv during the hols…if I get one!!
cheers, 🙂
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Lorraine,
Glad to hear. Nice to know I get one right every now and then.
Roger,
Please keep in mind, this is from a US perspective and may or may not be relevant for your neck of the woods. “If” only going for Photoshop, and a member of NAPP (National Association of Photoshop Professionals), they are offering a very attractive deal.
Separate of that, there is an online retailer here in the states, buy.com, that offers some great deals on software and hardware. Getting the entire “Creative Suite” gives the best bang for the buck. There are also some deals to be found via ebay.com, however, read everything CAREFULLY as not all the offerings are for brand new, sealed, registerable version of the software. Always a great source to consider, just be very cautious.
Hope you are a quick study or have a long holiday. I’ve been “playing” with PS for a few years now.
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Roger,
I get all my stuff from Gordon Harwood Computers on next day delivery. And very good they are too. http://www.ghc.com
If you buy a computer mag there are probably hundreds of sources, or you could go straight to the horse’s mouth, so to speak. The Adobe on-line shop at http://www.adobe.co.uk
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Roger,
Go for one of the design package, you’ll get illustrator, photoshop, indesign and acrobat for the price of just two!! well almost
Look at adobes website
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