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  • Which one would you choose?

  • Peter Normington

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    January 27, 2006 at 10:45 pm

    If you were choosing on VISUALS only

    please ignore any other specs

    Peter

  • Nicola McIntosh

    Member
    January 27, 2006 at 10:49 pm

    hilux peter 😀

    just looks nicer…i dont like the turtle shells on the back….. 😕 😉

    nik

  • Peter Normington

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    January 27, 2006 at 10:53 pm

    Sorry Please ignore the pickup top, or turtle shell as nik calls it!
    peter

  • Nicola McIntosh

    Member
    January 27, 2006 at 10:56 pm
    quote Peter Normington:

    Sorry Please ignore the pickup top, or turtle shell as nik calls it!
    peter

    why? is that not what they are called 😕 😀

    nik

  • Nick Williams

    Member
    January 27, 2006 at 10:58 pm

    niether 😮 😮

    if any of my clients saw me in one of them they would think i am makin too much money 😮 😛

    but the hilux looks good 😀

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    January 27, 2006 at 11:05 pm

    Nik, the other argument is,
    If my customers see me in an old van, they think I am desparate for work, and expect it for nothing 😀

    anyway they are not that much more expensive than a van, perhaps Rob could get us group discounts?

    Peter

  • Nicola McIntosh

    Member
    January 27, 2006 at 11:09 pm
    quote Peter Normington:

    Nik, the other argument is,
    If my customers see me in an old van, they think I am desparate for work, and expect it for nothing 😀
    Peter

    rubbish peter……ed still has his single cab truck and we still get work from it…… 😀 it depends on the way you sign them up 😉

    nik

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    January 27, 2006 at 11:14 pm

    if richard branson or stellios drove around in an old banger, do you think they would be successful entrepeneurs?

    would you use a soliciter who lived in a council house and drove an old escort?

    Image is never a bad thing, ask our friends over the pond,

    Peter

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    January 27, 2006 at 11:19 pm

    nik, nik, two at once is overwhelming!
    I had better withdraw, and buy a bike them, one of the old fashioned type that I rode as a kid, doing deliveries for our local butcher!
    You know, with a small wheel at the front ant a big basket….
    😀
    Peter

  • Marcella Ross

    Member
    January 27, 2006 at 11:20 pm

    The Hilux Peter.
    As for image… you’ve got to get the balance right. If you turn up in a banger, your clients assume what you’ll do will be cheap. If you turn up in a top of the range car, they think you charge too much. So balance is the key.
    As for these, neither is far superior to the other as far as a customer is concerned. But the Hilux has better looks.

  • Marekdlux

    Member
    January 27, 2006 at 11:22 pm

    We don’t have either of those over here. The nissan looks similar to the Frontier or Titan.
    My Dad has the full sized Titan. 4×4, plenty of room for 5 adults, dvd player with an 8 inch moniter, tow package, etc.
    It’s nice.
    -Marek

  • David Rogers

    Member
    January 27, 2006 at 11:23 pm

    Image has a fair bit to do with it, a K reg escort, with a tatty paint job won’t impress. A decent van (not necessarily new) & smart livery goes a LONG way – it’s often the first impression somebody gets of your abilities & image.

    I’d go for the Toyota…….it’s a Toyota after all. 🙂

  • Peter Normington

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    January 27, 2006 at 11:24 pm

    I could go for this

    Peter

  • Jill Marie Welsh

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    January 27, 2006 at 11:26 pm

    Is that you in your glorious boyhood days Peter?
    Nice Basket!
    Love….Jill

  • Marekdlux

    Member
    January 27, 2006 at 11:26 pm


    this is what we have over here..

  • Nick Williams

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    January 27, 2006 at 11:27 pm

    ha ha peter is that you ? when you first started? 😛 😛 😛

  • Shane Drew

    Member
    January 27, 2006 at 11:27 pm

    Normally I’d agree Nik, but I have experienced this first hand.

    Dad and I drove two identical Kombi Vans, signed exactly the same, new paint, new uphosltery etc etc, and we were known around the traps because of them.

    People would come up and admire them etc. Everyone it seems wants a restored Kombi.

    Then I lost two contracts within the space of 2 weeks.

    One was for $14000 and the other for $12000. I was livid. I called in to see the clients and asked what I had done that I was being replaced.

    The reply stunned me… A new sign shop turned up in a $50,000 HSV Ute, and the managements concluded that he was obviously more successful than me, I was gutted. He was even dearer than me by $2000! on one contract

    I went straight to a car dealer and purchased a new work van.

    What really shocked me was that I then started getting contracts for jobs that I never thought I had a chance. People started pulling me over in the street asking me to quote on upcoming projects.

    When I had that van 3 years, I traded it for a more ‘flashy and expensive’ long wheel base Vito.

    I had someone tell me the other day they were not getting a second quote as I’m obviously successful.

    So, 4 years ago I would have told Peter he was wrong, now I have to agree with him.

    I don’t say that I’m any better because I drive a new flash van, but it comes down to first impressions. Even starting work with a clean tidy van will make a difference, over a dirty untidy one.

  • Marcella Ross

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    January 27, 2006 at 11:28 pm

    with some ‘go faster’ stripes Peter, that basket would look the part!

  • Brian Hays

    Member
    January 27, 2006 at 11:28 pm

    I told you Peter one of these….. 😀

  • Brian Hays

    Member
    January 27, 2006 at 11:30 pm

    Oooops a nice little red cross 😳

  • Nick Williams

    Member
    January 27, 2006 at 11:30 pm

    ah yes but i live oop north and if you are flashy here you are likely to get a kicking rather than more work ……..only jokin

    both have their merits and i suppose its just who you deal with

  • Marcella Ross

    Member
    January 27, 2006 at 11:32 pm

    oooohh, my next door neighbour (the one with the 12 kids) has a Warrior. Anyway, she got out her L200 this morning and forgot to put the handbrake on……… it rolled down the drive and smacked into her 15 seater minibus (family car). I was sitting at the window, saw the whole thing…… bl00dy hysterical, I laughed mt head off! :lol1: :lol1:

    I know…. I’m a bad girl for laughing…. 😀

  • Peter Normington

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    January 27, 2006 at 11:32 pm

    Brian
    I would look like a real pikey then 😀

    Peter

  • Brian Hays

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    January 27, 2006 at 11:35 pm

    Not quite sure how that works Peter?

    Got any pics Marcella? :lol1:

  • Peter Normington

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    January 27, 2006 at 11:35 pm
    quote nick williams:

    ah yes but i live oop north and if you are flashy here you are likely to get a kicking rather than more work ……..only jokin

    both have their merits and i suppose its just who you deal with

    ee oop lad tha cant tel me owt about north, Yorky born an bred, T’mill owners niver add an ol car!

    Peter

  • Nicola McIntosh

    Member
    January 27, 2006 at 11:39 pm
    quote Brian Hays – Impact:

    I told you Peter one of these….. 😀

    i dont like the new mitsi……i think its stinks…too round 😕

  • Nick Williams

    Member
    January 27, 2006 at 11:45 pm
    quote Peter Normington:

    quote nick williams:

    ah yes but i live oop north and if you are flashy here you are likely to get a kicking rather than more work ……..only jokin

    both have their merits and i suppose its just who you deal with

    ee oop lad tha cant tel me owt about north, Yorky born an bred, T’mill owners niver add an ol car!

    Peter

    lol peter im a lancy not a yorky so its……th`mill not T`mill

  • Peter Normington

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    January 27, 2006 at 11:47 pm

    Lynns a foreigner from lancs, but we all have to bear our crosses, 😀
    Peter

  • Marcella Ross

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    January 27, 2006 at 11:55 pm
    quote Brian Hays – Impact:

    Got any pics Marcella? :lol1:

    Unfortunately not Brian…. but it’s etched on my memory! Needless to say it led to one almightly domestic! Great! :lol1: :lol1: :lol1:

  • Brian Hays

    Member
    January 28, 2006 at 12:03 am
    quote Marcella:

    Unfortunately not Brian…. but it’s etched on my memory! Needless to say it led to one almightly domestic! Great! :lol1: :lol1: :lol1:

    Shame :lol1: 12 kids was that an exageration?!

  • Marcella Ross

    Member
    January 28, 2006 at 12:05 am

    Absolutely not Brian …. 12 kids, no twins, no triplets, just 12 affected looking offspring….. it’s like One Flew Over The Cuckoos Nest in there….

  • Brian Hays

    Member
    January 28, 2006 at 9:57 am
    quote Marcella:

    Absolutely not Brian …. 12 kids, no twins, no triplets, just 12 affected looking offspring….. it’s like One Flew Over The Cuckoos Nest in there….

    Have you considered moving?! 😮

  • Hugh Potter

    Member
    January 28, 2006 at 10:17 am

    has to be the navara,

    nissan are without a doubt the most reliable motors you can buy, i’ve owned just about every make and model of car, even my beloved chrysler (proper american V8…. no wussy euro tin) stuff lets me down, nissan is the only marque i’ve owned, 3 cars 4yrs, which has NEVER let me down,

    image is a fair enough point, i do think carefully about what to buy now, but i think i’m going with a people carrier, why do i need a truck, cant put an 8×4 in a little pick up bed like that ! with kids etc, and currently only a budget for one vehicle, i’ll be going for something i can use for everything, just looking a a nissan import, tdi, 4wd, 8seater, seats fold into bed or remove to make a cool van, very practicle (god i sound mature now 😥 ), get all my fishing gear in, and i could even use it for sign work

  • Phill Fenton

    Member
    January 28, 2006 at 12:25 pm

    The Toyota and the Nissan both look the same to me – I wouldn’t know which was which if it wasn’t for the badges 😕

    To be honest – I don’t think pickups are all that practical anyway, lot’s of hairdressers drive them in their quest to appear butch and attract interest from other same sex hairdresser types (hence the name for this vehicle type – “Pick ups”).

    Better to buy a van which is a proper commercial vehicle not a “Lifestyle” vehicle for poseurs 😛

    (That’ll have rattled a few cages 😕 )

  • David Rowland

    Member
    January 28, 2006 at 12:38 pm

    VW Sheran, for kids and for Work.. great machine.
    Pick style.. not us I am afraid.

  • Carlos Cavanagh

    Member
    January 28, 2006 at 1:05 pm

    What about the Sprinter as a work van? Over here they’re either a Dodge or a Freightliner but I believe everywhere else they’re a Mercedes. Sets the right tone and you have acres of sides to do a stunning wrap?

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    January 28, 2006 at 4:39 pm
    quote Phill:

    The Toyota and the Nissan both look the same to me – I wouldn’t know which was which if it wasn’t for the badges 😕

    Better to buy a van which is a proper commercial vehicle not a “Lifestyle” vehicle for poseurs 😛

    (That’ll have rattled a few cages 😕 )

    But Phil I am a Poser. 😉

    A Pickup is ideal for me, I dont want to run a car and a van, I only have a van at the momemt and thats a little Kangoo, If I needed a car in the past, for the odd occasion I would hire one.
    I can get all I need in the pick up for work and pleasure, If I need to carry any thing big then I will attach a trailer.

    Why have 2 vehicles when one will do?

    Peter

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