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  • What sort of cost for this Traffic

     Hugh Potter updated 2 years, 5 months ago 6 Members · 9 Posts
  • Mike Thornley

    Member
    October 3, 2018 at 4:44 pm

    See the attached proof that was sent to us this afternoon for a quote.

    Me thinks someone not understanding the task behind the ask etc, the clients designer has done this

    What would you guys consider a fair price for this.

    Also just found out the van is gunmetal metallic grey and not black, so for it no to look a bodge all the bubbles would have to be a digital print, laminate and cut out job.


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  • Phill Fenton

    Member
    October 3, 2018 at 8:29 pm

    Yes this is why graphic designers should be banned from designing vehicle livery. It’s not even a good design, but will be an expensive job to implement. The 3/4 view of the van will look all wrong with the apparent flow of water no continuing around the corners. It also doesn’t scream "window Cleaner" to me – but something water related (which could be anything – bottled water sales, swimming pools etc.) You have to search hard to discover this is a window cleaners van.

    I would quote £1000- 1500 to make him go away or get him to rethink how his van should be done.

    Bear in mind, anyone else asked to quote this same job will have the same issues as you when trying to implement this idea.

  • David Hammond

    Member
    October 4, 2018 at 8:07 am

    Sound’s like an itallian restraunt to me 😆

    It’s going to be a nightmare just from a production point of view. Printed on white, then contour cut, you’re more than likely going to get a white edge around parts of it.

    Put in an exageratted price, explain why it’s so high, attached a few images of other vans you’ve done, and that you could do something like this, for £xxx… get them to have you design and install… take a deposit of course 😉

  • Mike Thornley

    Member
    October 4, 2018 at 1:49 pm

    Well gone in at just under a grand, explained that what may work on paper is not easily transferrable to the actual van, they have just placed an order. Waiting on the designer to send the graphic to see what we have.

  • Hugh Potter

    Member
    October 4, 2018 at 2:29 pm

    Good luck Mike,
    Last time I had something like that sent by ‘a designer’ it was made of a million pieces and no objects useable for making an outline.. several hours of work that made me glad I’d chucked an extra £250 on the job!!

  • Alan Drury

    Member
    October 4, 2018 at 5:52 pm

    Designers cause me more aggro than anything else, make sure you check the resolution as it will probably be either be 5dpi or so large it will take a week to download also view it in wireframe as there will probably be a thousand objects all overlapping. Also check the colour model as I often find cmyk, rgb and sometimes a few Pantone colours chucked in for good measure.

  • Shawn Bentley

    Member
    October 5, 2018 at 7:23 am

    Agree with above and wouldn’t be afraid of charging high for this. I do work for clients where I know what the graphic designers charge and a lot of the time it is more than we are charging to print and if they want an all singing all dancing design they have to pay for it lol, good luck with it,

  • Mike Thornley

    Member
    October 6, 2018 at 10:17 am

    Hi Alan
    I would say sign companies I used in the past caused me more agro than anything else, hence deciding to bring it in house.
    My background is commercial print, so over the years I have seen it all. But yes in this case the designer has no idea of the processes involved in getting this on the van, which is where we come in.
    Client did ask if I would negotiate on price as she said she had better quotes, asked her for copies of said quotes to check the spec etc and we were all quoting like for like. Nothing forthcoming.
    Thanks all for the input.

  • Hugh Potter

    Member
    October 6, 2018 at 10:55 am
    quote Mike Thornley:

    Hi Alan
    I would say sign companies I used in the past caused me more agro than anything else, hence deciding to bring it in house.
    My background is commercial print, so over the years I have seen it all. But yes in this case the designer has no idea of the processes involved in getting this on the van, which is where we come in.
    Client did ask if I would negotiate on price as she said she had better quotes, asked her for copies of said quotes to check the spec etc and we were all quoting like for like. Nothing forthcoming.
    Thanks all for the input.

    I’m curious to understand what agro you had?!

    not trying to teach you to suck eggs but looking at that on a practical level, there’s 5m of print each side, 2 across the back plus other bits, say 15m to cover it. you’d probably want to use something like a 2d wrap film, though a good poly 5-7yr film should be managable, either way at (for eg) £60+ per mtr retail that’s already around £900+ in materials, not to mention a good 4-5hrs to fit it, and no doubt they’ve no idea about cut contours etc. so there’d be more time.. then the time explaining all this to them and that there’s no chance some of the smaller bubbles will be there.. etc.

    I reckon I’d be £1000-1100 all day long. I’ve no doubt at all that others would / could do it cheaper, good for them I say!

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