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  • Week 2, of the Lockdown – How is everyone doing?

  • Phill Fenton

    Member
    March 30, 2020 at 9:11 am

    We are now into the second week since the government advised everyone to stay at home if possible. I suspect there may be a few sign businesses producing signs and notices related to the virus situation, but the majority of us are probably closed.

    We haven’t done anything productive since last Monday – but have continued to go in to check mail and carry out genreal admin duties as well as running ink through the printer. At the same time we have been taking the opportunity to didy up the workshop. It’s probably the tidiest it’s ever been since we moved in.

    I have applied for the business suport grant from my local council and I am waiting to hear back.

    We have cut back on all non essential expenditure in order to mantain cashflow and pay our suppliers and ourselves.

    So far so good – but we are only a week into this so far and things have yet to start biting.

    How are others doing?

  • Chris Wilson

    Member
    March 30, 2020 at 10:08 am

    Bored.
    Working from home. Odd bit of design work. Going to update the website photos and content I think. Trying to have a long hard think about what pages I want etc…

    Kicking myself a little as we moved into a unit last summer as one was actually available but it’s our busiest time of the year. So I should of bought paint, filler, floor paint, wall paper.. even wrap. our big van in on the list to be wrapped, design ready. But like you I don’t want to go spending if it’s not needed.

    I think this is going to go for a while. If they think the peak will be in 2-3 weeks we still need to come back down from the peak to safer levels or no virus at all. That says June to me.

  • David Hammond

    Member
    March 30, 2020 at 10:26 am

    Working from home, doing what bits we can. Going into the unit to produce what needs producing.

    Got the phones at home with us, they’re not ringing, very little ‘work’ to be doing.

    Been doing some online tutorials for illustrator and indesign, keeping my hand in, and even learning a few things along the way!

  • Martyn Heath

    Member
    March 30, 2020 at 10:31 am

    Work stopped for me 2 weeks ago. Not a single phone call or email since. Been waiting for the govt to give some answers help wise out here. Seems that unless you are pennyless then they wont help. So doing not a lot, coming up with new schemes and ideas for once this is over.
    Luckily ive put myself in a good position with little to no overheads and good savings so i should be able to see this through.

    Bigger companies on the otherhand, with unit rents, loans on machinery, vehicles etc god knows how you guys are sleeping at night. I wish you all luck but i have to say the likely outcome of this situation is many sign companies going under. In a selfish way whoever gets through this may benefit in the longrun.

  • Hugh Potter

    Member
    March 30, 2020 at 11:24 am

    I’ve gone from 5-10 enquries a day, to just two in the past 8 days, and neither of those losers bothers to reply with my ‘required information’, you know… what van is it?..ffs!!

    Virtually nothing to do, have come in to print a sicker for the door (to give the printer something to do) and get a bit of stuff to take home but, our ebay / amazon has gone from 5-10 orders daily to just three in the past 8 days.

    Work wise the only stuff I can do is not required now (at this time) or can’t be fitted / installed so I see no point prepping it and wasting time / materials that may be permanently wasted if the customer doesn’t come through.

    Using the time to take stock really, decide how to proceed when we’re able to open again, earn money and get busy, not just get busy on fruitless promotions..

    Crappy situation all round for most people, unless you’re lucky enough to have contracts printing corona related stuff – I don’t!

    I reckon we can scrape through this but it’s probably gonna be tight, locked down all unnecessary spending, arranged repayment holidays, great landlord has given us free rent for the foreseeable, etc.

    A bit pants!

  • David Hammond

    Member
    March 30, 2020 at 11:33 am

    That’s the thing, how do we recover when it’s all over?

    I don’t think the flood gates will be opening when we all return, it’s going to take a while for it to trickle down, that’s where the fun starts. Customers looking to save money, and suppliers desperate for the work.

    It may separate the chaff from the wheat.

  • Martyn Heath

    Member
    March 30, 2020 at 11:49 am
    quote David Hammond:

    That’s the thing, how do we recover when it’s all over?

    I don’t think the flood gates will be opening when we all return, it’s going to take a while for it to trickle down, that’s where the fun starts. Customers looking to save money, and suppliers desperate for the work.

    It may separate the chaff from the wheat.

    I think reality is this year is a write off! Once this hopefully blows over (June ish i reckon) the economy is going to be on its knees. Its going to be an advertising battle and everyone cutting their prices to get the jobs. But……..once we get over that then it should be back to normal?

    Im sure some of you guys went through the last recession so will be battle ready.

  • Hugh Potter

    Member
    March 30, 2020 at 12:11 pm
    quote Martyn Heath:

    Im sure some of you guys went through the last recession so will be battle ready.

    Typically I have found recession or minor downturns to be a good thing for business, Lots of people suddenly going self employed with their severance pay and getting vans written, signboards,cards etc. With this, it’s more than a recession, nobody has any money except those at the very top and, to be honest, they aren’t making signs!

    I like to think we will continue as per when back, with the exception of a couple of things we’re looking to put in to place to help customers and other promotions. But at the end of the day, I, you, we, can’t work for nothing. I’d sooner do as now, earn a reasonable profit for a few good jobs, than be a two a penny outfit.

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    March 30, 2020 at 12:46 pm

    We are still getting orders and enquires. nothing in comparison to before obviously, but still…
    We have even been asked to install graphics for companies that have declined to fit their own customers work.
    That said, we are working from home and will only go into do this and that but more so on preparing to start back and we do have plenty when we do start back. the tricky bit is how the customers are handling the situation, who will pay their bills or who will delay delay delay installs of existing work hoping you go away!

    on the plus, I am catching up on the backlog of tedious chores around the house and my home office. That’s in between UKSB work in the background, as I have mountains of it, so there is a benefit in this situation right there. :awkward:

    moving forward it is not going to be as easy as before, but everyone’s in the same boat. Turn your negatives into positives and you will be on the right track! :thumbsup:

  • Jamie Wood

    Member
    March 31, 2020 at 8:06 am

    I’m doing artwork from home, and just going in when there’s a reasonable amount to put on the machines. Still got bits & bobs coming in, and some work on hold for when it’s all over, so hopefully, we should be OK.

  • Richard Urquhart

    Member
    March 31, 2020 at 8:18 am

    OK so my son who works for me had a baby at the start of this so he’s been off on paternity leave, he’s now off until its safe to come back, its been so slow its not worth me going into the unit, lots of our work is dealership and body shop related and as the car dealers are closed its been very hard, what with the amount directors are due its going to be a tough time, all we can hope is we come out the other side, stay safe everyone and good luck, Rich

  • David Hammond

    Member
    March 31, 2020 at 6:03 pm

    Hours sat on YouTube learning some of the new tools in Illustrator.

    I’ve been a bit cynical of some the "updates" but there are some fantastic tools and features that will make life easier!


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  • Anonymous

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    March 31, 2020 at 10:02 pm

    Beginning of last week was fairly slow, but towards the end of it and work started to pick up, just needed to fight a bit more to get people to pay for orders, so bit more chasing up, calling customers going that extra mile to take their card details. Its definitally more quiet, phone is definitally more quiet, but orders still come in through the website or emails. I get to start from 6:00 and usually will start calling some customers at 8:00 for card details to complete the order second day now that I call them and seems as if they were still in bed.

    A printer for vinyl media is getting used more then normal, running for 10 hours straight, a big drop in banner printing that is lacking compared to month ago and sometimes feels like its not worth even starting the printer for just an hour or two print, correx and foamex boards printing is slow as well and could do with few more of them.

    Just all of it makes it we need to fight for customers just a little bit more 🙂 and be less picky, fight, throw a trap, catch them in the net, once they on the hook do not let them walk away, email, call, ask.

    I found sometimes they just can’t be bothered, drop them a catch up message or ringing them up and you can be back in the game.

  • Chris Wool

    Member
    March 31, 2020 at 11:34 pm

    still doing bits for manufactures but the door is shut only me going in and keep machines alive.

    new to 3d printing so learning lots, and fusion360 new vinyl magnets eventually found the right magnets.. new porch so printed new house numbers then gold leaf finish on raised surface.


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  • Michael Cunney

    Member
    April 8, 2020 at 8:56 am

    Kind of a similar mind set to what a few of you have touched on above, it’ll be tough but those often larger companies who run on leased machines and huge over heads will likely struggle, meaning potentially less competition for those who remain. Plus all the unfortunate (not signage) businesses that go under will have their spaces replaced with new businesses, all requiring the services of what we all do.

    So very tough right now and I wouldn’t wish for anyone to lose their business or job but those who can persist will hopefully see their rewards for doing so later in the year.

    We’ve still got stuff going through although bits in comparison to usual, getting enquiries but you look at them and think what business is really looking at expenditure right now so see them as more pricing exercises, not that I mind.

    And for those exceptionally quiet days, there’s always Football Manager :praiseyou:

  • Pane Talev

    Member
    April 8, 2020 at 10:36 am

    Last order taken on 12 March. No help from swiss government up to date. Not ordered to close my kind of businesses-no financial help provided. Economy dead at the moment. Investments stopped in all companies.

  • David Hammond

    Member
    April 8, 2020 at 10:49 am

    I’ve just been in and done an order of 12,000 labels for a customer who supplies the NHS, happen to get an order for some poster whilst in too, so will drop those off, then heading home.

    Turned off all non essential devices, and will be furloughed after today along with my old man. Just not the work to warrant coming in. 🙁

  • Simon Worrall

    Member
    April 8, 2020 at 11:43 am

    $7000 was paid straight into my account from the NZ government on the third day of lockdown. Amazing!
    I am very impressed with the way it’s being handled here,our prime minister has become an international media star for her steady good natured control.

    Compared with the heavy handed UK and French reaction, NZ is a walk in the park. Actually we are encouraged to walk in the parks here. Everyone in my town is out and about taking exercise, and chatting to each other from 2 meters away.

    I have had a couple of work enquiries but no work. The jobs I have on the books are mothballed for now. I have the funds to get through this, although I seriously doubt I will even have a business when its all over – and a 3-year commitment to an expensive town centre commercial rent. The government can’t sustain everyone for too much longer.

    Although I completely disagree with the lockdown – I think it is insane and will be a disaster way worse than anything the virus can possibly bring – I am not breaking any of the rules and I have stopped ranting.(after this!)

    Normally I dislike Fox news, and Tucker Carlson in particular, but his opinion piece on 7 April was compelling, and very frightening, and he made some good points about grocery stores being the main vector in transmission, so I am going to share it here:

  • Chris Wilson

    Member
    April 8, 2020 at 12:00 pm
    quote Simon Worrall:

    $7000 was paid straight into my account from the NZ government on the third day of lockdown. Amazing!

    If only the world would follow NZ examples. Plenty of friends that have gone over there, never heard anything bad said.

  • Martyn Heath

    Member
    April 8, 2020 at 12:32 pm

    The alcohol cabinet is taking a serious hit

  • Michael Cunney

    Member
    April 8, 2020 at 3:25 pm
    quote Simon Worrall:

    $7000 was paid straight into my account from the NZ government on the third day of lockdown. Amazing!
    I am very impressed with the way it’s being handled here,our prime minister has become an international media star for her steady good natured control.

    Compared with the heavy handed UK and French reaction, NZ is a walk in the park. Actually we are encouraged to walk in the parks here. Everyone in my town is out and about taking exercise, and chatting to each other from 2 meters away.

    I have had a couple of work enquiries but no work. The jobs I have on the books are mothballed for now. I have the funds to get through this, although I seriously doubt I will even have a business when its all over – and a 3-year commitment to an expensive town centre commercial rent. The government can’t sustain everyone for too much longer.

    Although I completely disagree with the lockdown – I think it is insane and will be a disaster way worse than anything the virus can possibly bring – I am not breaking any of the rules and I have stopped ranting.(after this!)

    Normally I dislike Fox news, and Tucker Carlson in particular, but his opinion piece on 7 April was compelling, and very frightening, and he made some good points about grocery stores being the main vector in transmission, so I am going to share it here:

    I personally think the measures the UK government have put in place to support businesses has been nothing short of amazing, still get an army of people over here bashing them though (I’ve seen a nurse and a teacher on my Facebook page both post saying they hope Boris Johnson doesn’t make it out of hospital).

    Kind of in agreement with you that the lock down is creating more problems than it’s solving but people wiser than us must know otherwise, but it’s got a tad silly here, I live by mountains but I’m unable to walk up them, even without driving as they’re being patrolled by police, I live by ponds that I can’t fish as it’s been banned, I get stadiums, gatherings etc, but when you’re allowed to walk into a supermarkets and touch a hundred surfaces but can’t walk through the countryside it seems a bit back to front.

    Reason given is to free up emergency services, but having police patrols, fire brigade responding to more house fires through everyone being home and paramedics going out to an array of problems brought about by people suffering in lock down (domestic abuse, suicides, mental health etc) and the amount of unfortunate people who require urgent medical help but can’t get into a doctors or get treatment, it does make you question the logic.

    I live in deep North Wales, and some poor guy had taken his kayak out on a lake, only for locals to vandalise his car because he was ‘bringing the virus in’, now the guy in the middle of the lake is spreading a lot less than the cretins touching and messing with his car, again logic :shake:

  • Wayne Fothergill

    Member
    April 9, 2020 at 2:27 pm
    quote Michael Cunney:

    I personally think the measures the UK government have put in place to support businesses has been nothing short of amazing, still get an army of people over here bashing them though (I’ve seen a nurse and a teacher on my Facebook page both post saying they hope Boris Johnson doesn’t make it out of hospital).

    May I ask, In what way do you think they’ve been amazing? What they’ve announced for businesses thus far has been little more than a good looking press release.

    The furlough scheme is all well and good, and is helping a lot of people, but the furlough scheme is only as good as the health of the businesses employing those people on it. Many companies are heading towards a cash flow cliff edge in the next 3-4 weeks and the only real assistance the government have made available to businesses is the Coronavirus Business Interruption Loan Scheme which has been poorly conceived and implemented.

    It’s all well and good Rishi standing up there with his nice suit and hair exuding confidence and calmly reassuring everyone everyone that there will be £330bn of support for businesses and more if required, but once the details of the scheme became apparent it is wildly unfit for purpose.

    https://twitter.com/christianjmay/status/1247588333615808521?s=21

    The latest data, obtained by @CityAM, shows 52,710 phone enquiries and 256,483 online enquiries had been made by yesterday. Yet only 2,022 loans had been approved and £291.9m given out.

    Just 0.653% successful applications and only 0.08% of the funds allocated after the scheme has been running for 2 weeks, this is going to be an unmitigated disaster unless they fundamentally change their approach to distribution.

    Businesses need cash right now, if you insist on using the commercial banks as a delivery method then this should have been a 100% government backed scheme with low interest rates and near automatic approval. Instead we have all the banks pushing people towards their own commercial products, offering outlandish terms and making people jump through hoops with business plans and cash flow forecasts etc all of which aren’t currently worth the paper they are written on.

    Then there’s the whole issue of help for the self employed coming in June, which is an unacceptable delay.

    So yeah, I’m failing to see what part of the governments response could be defined as "amazing".

    Oh and as for the nurse and teacher wishing ill of the Prime Minister I can understand it. I don’t want to see him die by any means, but his party have spent a decade ravaging the public services and frontline public sector workers such as teachers and nurses have had their jobs, pay and lives made miserable by it.

  • Phill Fenton

    Member
    April 21, 2020 at 5:48 pm

    Now into week 4

    Last week we received the business support grant which should help a lot. I’ve also been busy sending out statements to keep the cashflow coming in. Fortunately most are playing fair and as yet we have very few overdue accounts – but at the same time the amount we are owed is becoming less and less so this income will quickly dry up now. We have cut back on all unecessary outgoings but have ensured we pay all our suppliers on time. As time goes on our outgoings have become less due to the lack of work coming in and consequently the absence of purchasing any materials. We have suspended payments of rent on our unit (but as we own it anyway via our pension fund no one else is being harmed by this). Our business insurance is due for renewal at the end of this month and we have elected to pay this in instalments to spread the outgoings over the coming months. The only other overheads are utilites, phones, Monitored alarm, Sage and Card payment machine. Not forgetting our own personal drawings. VAT and Tax payments are being deferred for now.

    I am hopefull that we will be in a strong position to resume work once the lockdown has ended, but my main concern is how quickly will the work come in or will we find as some degree of normality resumes that customers are cutting back on their expenditure on signage?

    Interesting times ahead.

    I wonder if any sign businesses will elect to merge with their competitors to save costs?

  • David Hammond

    Member
    April 21, 2020 at 5:55 pm

    Glad to hear that Phill, and well done on making the visors.

    Are you a sole trader, or limited? Will you be getting an support towards your personal income.

    We’re shutdown, not enough work to warrant opening up, and have furloughed ourselves. I’ve received a few emails and calls, but not actioned anything, even passing some work on to some companies who aren’t so fortunate and have to keep working at the moment. Like you we’ve cut down on overheads, and just paying our suppliers.

    Feel’s weird not working, but putting the time to good use, mainly doing tutorials online, and looking at the business overall, looks like we may be changing direction when we return after all of this.

  • Chris Wilson

    Member
    April 21, 2020 at 6:53 pm

    Also received our grant today.

    Picking up a fair few health and safety signs with firms returning on skeleton crews. Boys are all furloughed. Think I will keep them off as long as possible and on that scheme. A lot of our work is events or based around events. Am planning for it being the worst.

    Quite relaxed though. Even trying to decided if I should bite the bullet and get a mounters mate table with some other bits if we return and things are better than worst case. I noticed a chart of BBC showing the expected growth, which is going to be 35% down the quarter but if we can resume some sort of normality be 30% up in the next quarter.. which would be nice. Only thing doing my nut is some customers.

    "Hi Chris. I am working from home as I am not allowed to open my business. I walked past though and my signs are not up. Can you advise please"

    General crack from myself pointing out we are in the same boat.

    "Hi Chris. Not very happy with that. Before lockdown we agreed the 2nd of April. I can’t imagine your very busy this now. Please get them up.. "

    *rolls eyes and bangs head off table several times.

    Not to mention the timber yards are shut. And everyone was made aware on the 23rd of March that it’s not safe or right to have the boys or myself out doing signage. Bit different me being at the unit working away alone and not seeing a single person.

    But least the sun is out. Even cleaned my slabs.

  • Phill Fenton

    Member
    April 21, 2020 at 7:18 pm

    Hi David – Sole trader in partnership with Alison which means we will receive the same support offered to the self employed

  • Martin Oxenham

    Member
    April 21, 2020 at 10:37 pm

    Actually Phill, Sole Trader and Partnership are Two different things.

  • Phill Fenton

    Member
    April 22, 2020 at 7:57 am
    quote Martin Oxenham:

    Actually Phill, Sole Trader and Partnership are Two different things.

    Trading as a partnership means that ownership of the business is shared. Whereas a sole trader owns the entire business. That’s the only difference. In both cases the proprietor (or proprietors) are regarded as self employed.

  • Martin Oxenham

    Member
    April 22, 2020 at 8:36 am

    Hi Phil, Yes I understand that, I was merely saying that Tax wise it’s different, as you have to submit a tax return for both people. You’re right, it shouldn’t make any difference in this case, but they will treat you as Two separate cases.

  • David Stevenson

    Member
    April 22, 2020 at 10:36 pm

    This sums things up nicely…. [emoji38]

    So in case you are confused… These are the rules in the UK

    1. You MUST NOT leave the house for any reason, but if you have a reason, you can leave the house.
    2. Masks are useless at protecting you against the virus, but you may have to wear one because it can save lives, but they may not work, but they may be mandatory, but maybe not.
    3. Shops are closed, except those shops that are open.
    4. You must not go to work but you can get another job and go to work.
    5. If you are sick, you can go out when you are better but anyone else in your household can’t go out when you are better unless they need to go out.
    6. This virus can kill people, but don’t be scared of it. It can only kill those people who are vulnerable or those people who are not vulnerable. It’s possible to contain and control it, sometimes, except that sometimes it actually leads to a global disaster.
    7. Gloves won’t help, but they can still help so wear them sometimes, or not.
    8. STAY HOME, but it’s important to go out.
    9. There is no shortage of groceries in the supermarkets, but there are many things missing. Sometimes you won’t need loo rolls but you should buy some just in case you need some.
    10. The virus has no effect on children except those children it affects.
    11. Animals are not affected, but there was a cat that tested positive in Belgium in February when no one had been tested, plus a few tigers here and there…
    12. Stay 2 metres away from tigers (see point 11).
    13. You will have many symptoms if you get the virus, but you can also get symptoms without getting the virus, get the virus without having any symptoms or be contagious without having symptoms, or be non contagious with symptoms…it’s a sort of lucky/unlucky dip.
    14. To help protect yourself you should eat well and exercise, but eat whatever you have on hand as it’s better not to go to the shops, unless you need toilet roll or a fence panel.
    15. It’s important to get fresh air but don’t go to parks but go for a walk. But don’t sit down, except if you are old, but not for too long or if you are pregnant or if you’re not old or pregnant but need to sit down. If you do sit down don’t eat your picnic, unless you’ve had a long walk, which you are/aren’t allowed to do if you’re old or pregnant.
    16. Don’t visit old people but you have to take care of the old people and bring them food and medication.
    17. You should not go to the Doctor’s or to the hospital unless you have to go there, unless you are too poorly to go there.
    18. You can get restaurant food delivered to the house. These deliveries are safe. But groceries you bring back to your house have to be decontaminated outside for 3 hours including frozen pizza.
    19. You can’t see your older mother or grandmother, but they can take a taxi and meet an older taxi driver.
    20. You are safe if you maintain the safe social distance when out but you can’t go out with friends or strangers at the safe social distance.
    21. The virus remains active on different surfaces for two hours … or four hours…or six hours… I mean days, not hours. But it needs a damp environment. Or a cold environment that is warm and dry… in the air, as long as the air is not plastic.
    22. Schools are closed so you need to home educate your children, unless you can send them to school because you’re not at home. If you are at home you can home educate your children using various portals and virtual class rooms, unless you have poor internet, or more than one child and only one computer, or you are working from home. Baking cakes can be considered maths, science or art. If you are home educating you can include household chores within their education. If you are home educating you can start drinking at 10am.
    23. If you are not home educating children you can also start drinking at 10am.
    24. The number of corona related deaths will be announced daily but we don’t know how many people are infected as they are only testing those who are almost dead to find out if that’s what they will die of. The people who die of corona who aren’t counted, won’t or will be counted but maybe not.
    25. We should stay in locked down until the virus stops infecting people but it will only stop infecting people if we all get infected so it’s important we get infected and some don’t get infected.
    26. You can join your neighbours for a street party and turn your music up for an outside disco and your neighbours won’t call the police. People in another street are allowed to call the police about your music whilst also having a party which you are allowed to call the police about.
    27. No business will go down due to Coronavirus except those businesses that will go down due to Coronavirus.
    Hope that makes things clearer for you

  • Kevin Mahoney

    Member
    April 23, 2020 at 6:00 am

    [emoji23] Best public information advice so far! The scientists have been working really hard to find a cure, almost there now, expect it in around a year to 18 months. They’re clearly on day rate.


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  • Iain Pearson

    Member
    April 23, 2020 at 7:15 am

    Yup, we are all fine. Still got work coming in, have a large install tomorrow/Saturday and a bigger one next week. Seen a downturn for sure but not as bad as I was expecting

  • Alex Crosbie

    Member
    April 23, 2020 at 7:17 am

    David Stephenson, have you ever considered a job as an MP?! Or possibly a government advisor [emoji23]

  • David Stevenson

    Member
    April 26, 2020 at 10:39 am
    quote Alex Crosbie:

    David Stephenson, have you ever considered a job as an MP?! Or possibly a government advisor [emoji23]

    [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] It really is difficult to understand.

  • Jean Oakley

    Member
    April 27, 2020 at 8:54 am

    Ive furloughed staff and im in at unit 2-3 days a week on my own (just like the old days). Some of my customers are key workers so need to be in to help them out. I wish I could furlough myself but its just not possible. Someone has to keep the business ticking over till this blows over. Im more concerned about work id already cut to fit before the shut down and if the companies will still want the work doing. I also don’t know about my staff returning on their pre lockdown hours as I doubt we will have much work straight off.

  • Darren.Summers

    Member
    April 27, 2020 at 9:20 am

    As a family run company, we have furloughed all staff that don’t live in our house. That leaves myself, my partner and her son. Myself and my partner are in almost every day doing something. Mainly because up until Friday (24th April) we couldn’t divert our calls. Our son comes in when needed. Other than that, we are self isolating at home and at work.

    Our work has about halved. We’re doing what we can to keep the wolves from the door.

    I agree that the govt hasn’t really done much to help – when furloughing does finally reach us then that will help.

    Stay safe all!

    oh, ps. To those that think we should stay at home and not come to work. Please could you pay our mortgage? Thanks.

  • Chris Wilson

    Member
    April 27, 2020 at 10:32 am
    quote Jean Oakley:

    Ive furloughed staff and im in at unit 2-3 days a week on my own (just like the old days). Some of my customers are key workers so need to be in to help them out. I wish I could furlough myself but its just not possible. Someone has to keep the business ticking over till this blows over. Im more concerned about work id already cut to fit before the shut down and if the companies will still want the work doing. I also don’t know about my staff returning on their pre lockdown hours as I doubt we will have much work straight off.

    I think you don’t have take them all back at once when restrictions are lifted. Am pretty sure the scheme runs till the end of June. So if it’s lifted in May am going to bring my fitter back and if we get busy enough for everyone before the end of June then so be it. That is of course if they start to lift restrictions. They may extend or a month or two of course. Who knows. Am just going on the basis that some companies are work with small crews and the rest on furlough so am guessing you’ll be able to pick the moment for each.

  • Jamie Palmer

    Member
    April 29, 2020 at 11:59 am
    quote David Stevenson:

    This sums things up nicely…. [emoji38]

    So in case you are confused… These are the rules in the UK

    1. You MUST NOT leave the house for any reason, but if you have a reason, you can leave the house.
    2. Masks are useless at protecting you against the virus, but you may have to wear one because it can save lives, but they may not work, but they may be mandatory, but maybe not.
    3. Shops are closed, except those shops that are open.
    4. You must not go to work but you can get another job and go to work.
    5. If you are sick, you can go out when you are better but anyone else in your household can’t go out when you are better unless they need to go out.
    6. This virus can kill people, but don’t be scared of it. It can only kill those people who are vulnerable or those people who are not vulnerable. It’s possible to contain and control it, sometimes, except that sometimes it actually leads to a global disaster.
    7. Gloves won’t help, but they can still help so wear them sometimes, or not.
    8. STAY HOME, but it’s important to go out.
    9. There is no shortage of groceries in the supermarkets, but there are many things missing. Sometimes you won’t need loo rolls but you should buy some just in case you need some.
    10. The virus has no effect on children except those children it affects.
    11. Animals are not affected, but there was a cat that tested positive in Belgium in February when no one had been tested, plus a few tigers here and there…
    12. Stay 2 metres away from tigers (see point 11).
    13. You will have many symptoms if you get the virus, but you can also get symptoms without getting the virus, get the virus without having any symptoms or be contagious without having symptoms, or be non contagious with symptoms…it’s a sort of lucky/unlucky dip.
    14. To help protect yourself you should eat well and exercise, but eat whatever you have on hand as it’s better not to go to the shops, unless you need toilet roll or a fence panel.
    15. It’s important to get fresh air but don’t go to parks but go for a walk. But don’t sit down, except if you are old, but not for too long or if you are pregnant or if you’re not old or pregnant but need to sit down. If you do sit down don’t eat your picnic, unless you’ve had a long walk, which you are/aren’t allowed to do if you’re old or pregnant.
    16. Don’t visit old people but you have to take care of the old people and bring them food and medication.
    17. You should not go to the Doctor’s or to the hospital unless you have to go there, unless you are too poorly to go there.
    18. You can get restaurant food delivered to the house. These deliveries are safe. But groceries you bring back to your house have to be decontaminated outside for 3 hours including frozen pizza.
    19. You can’t see your older mother or grandmother, but they can take a taxi and meet an older taxi driver.
    20. You are safe if you maintain the safe social distance when out but you can’t go out with friends or strangers at the safe social distance.
    21. The virus remains active on different surfaces for two hours … or four hours…or six hours… I mean days, not hours. But it needs a damp environment. Or a cold environment that is warm and dry… in the air, as long as the air is not plastic.
    22. Schools are closed so you need to home educate your children, unless you can send them to school because you’re not at home. If you are at home you can home educate your children using various portals and virtual class rooms, unless you have poor internet, or more than one child and only one computer, or you are working from home. Baking cakes can be considered maths, science or art. If you are home educating you can include household chores within their education. If you are home educating you can start drinking at 10am.
    23. If you are not home educating children you can also start drinking at 10am.
    24. The number of corona related deaths will be announced daily but we don’t know how many people are infected as they are only testing those who are almost dead to find out if that’s what they will die of. The people who die of corona who aren’t counted, won’t or will be counted but maybe not.
    25. We should stay in locked down until the virus stops infecting people but it will only stop infecting people if we all get infected so it’s important we get infected and some don’t get infected.
    26. You can join your neighbours for a street party and turn your music up for an outside disco and your neighbours won’t call the police. People in another street are allowed to call the police about your music whilst also having a party which you are allowed to call the police about.
    27. No business will go down due to Coronavirus except those businesses that will go down due to Coronavirus.
    Hope that makes things clearer for you

    Perfect, that gave me a laugh, thank you.

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