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  • Cheryl Smith

    Member
    October 2, 2014 at 6:38 am

    If you get an email form James Logan trading as Trinity Trading in Manchester…he is a serial FRAUDSTER…dont waste your time pricing up for a too good to be true order…
    Fortunately my guts told me (before placing orders thank God) it was too good to be true and tracked down this info….
    Cheryl

  • Gary Birch

    Member
    October 2, 2014 at 12:11 pm

    I don’t suppose it was for roller banners was it?

    We have had the enquiry twice but after a little research guessed it was dodgy.

  • Jon Marshall

    Member
    October 2, 2014 at 12:43 pm

    What’s the gist of it?

  • Gary Birch

    Member
    October 2, 2014 at 12:45 pm

    Hello Sales,

    This is James from Trinity Tradings Ltd, we will like to order for the below product from you.

    kindly make a quote for :

    19 Nos of Standard Roller Banner – Flat base

    850mm x 2000mm

    Please confirm availability and Price

    Waiting for your prompt reply.

    Regards.

    James Logan.

    Trinity Tradings Ltd
    Unit 2 Broughton Lane,
    Salford
    M7 1UH.
    Manchester.
    TEL: 0161205242

    Trinity Tradings is a dissolved company

  • Cheryl Smith

    Member
    October 2, 2014 at 12:47 pm

    Yup wanted a load of roller banners…..

    http://www.tellows.co.uk/num/01612052422

    this is where i found further info.

    Cheryl

  • Ewan Chrystal

    Member
    October 2, 2014 at 1:05 pm

    Glad i saw this. An 0161 number has tried phoning me a few times lately

  • Cheryl Smith

    Member
    October 2, 2014 at 2:53 pm

    if it helps ONE poor soul not get scammed I’m glad I said something…
    he needs hanging by the bollocks…

  • John Singh

    Member
    October 2, 2014 at 3:02 pm

    Thanks Cheryl

    Good to let us know so we can be on our guard

    That link reveals this low level life has been operating for at least a year on the same 0161 number!!!

    Surely he should have been nicked by now

    Come on Fraud Squad (grab) (grab) (grab)

  • Cheryl Smith

    Member
    October 3, 2014 at 5:56 am

    Yes John…youd think eh…but from what I experience and hear about…sounds like the fraud squad are overrun…I reported it tho.

  • David Hammond

    Member
    October 3, 2014 at 6:57 am

    Interesting…. We’re based in Salford and haven’t come across this yet…

    I will let those in the office know.

  • Lee Reeves

    Member
    October 3, 2014 at 7:09 am

    We have had this one also he has paid £2600.77 an over payment of around £1000 we are waiting for him to ask for the overpayment back the payment was by cheque in his local branch so has not cleared yet and never will. We received a email yesterday saying they have had a fire in there warehouse and this had delayed the payment lol. We smelt a rat from the start as the spelling in the emails is very poor and you know when you just get a feeling this is not right.

    We will be asking for his bank details to refund the over payment then pass them on to the police in the hope they can freeze the account and anyone who has been scamed might get there money back.

  • Cheryl Smith

    Member
    October 3, 2014 at 7:40 am

    what a low life 🙄

  • Jamie Wood

    Member
    October 3, 2014 at 7:41 am
    quote Gary Birch:

    Hello Sales,

    This is James from Trinity Tradings Ltd, we will like to order for the below product from you.

    kindly make a quote for :

    19 Nos of Standard Roller Banner – Flat base

    850mm x 2000mm

    Please confirm availability and Price

    Waiting for your prompt reply.

    Regards.

    James Logan.

    Trinity Tradings Ltd
    Unit 2 Broughton Lane,
    Salford
    M7 1UH.
    Manchester.
    TEL: 0161205242

    Trinity Tradings is a dissolved company

    This sounds almost exactly like the Nigerian scams. Does James Logan even exist?

  • Cheryl Smith

    Member
    October 3, 2014 at 7:58 am

    It was how quickly he placed the order which got me asking….NOBODY spends that much without some questions…too good to be true…it would have been the quickest grand I made without lifting a finger.

  • Lee Reeves

    Member
    October 3, 2014 at 10:24 am

    Here also he replied straight away and no mention of artwork either our accounts have just told me his email this morning saying his accounts deptment have made an over payment lol. We have reported it to the bank the cheque has already been declined as the signatures do not match the account holders, strange this is they have credited our account with the money provisionally but it takes 5 working days for a cheque to clear and another 2 working days they can still cancel the cheque so it’s really 7 working days before the money is safe.. Be careful when accepting cheques we normally allow 5 days but now we will make sure it’s 7 days just to be safe.

  • Cheryl Smith

    Member
    October 3, 2014 at 10:29 am

    Thats shocking…I assumed that if the money was in your bank…it had cleared!..I insisted on bacs payment…is that different??

  • Martin Pearson

    Member
    October 3, 2014 at 10:35 am

    Yes Cheryl BACS is completely different, by BACS the money is transfered directly from their bank to yours, money has to be in the account for their bank to transfer it.

  • Cheryl Smith

    Member
    October 3, 2014 at 10:41 am

    thanks Martin…thats probably why I didn’t get paid any money in the first place. Glad I asked for that and held fire on the metalwork until I saw readies….

  • Lee Reeves

    Member
    October 3, 2014 at 11:05 am

    We asked for bacs payment but he paid a cheque into his local branch using our vacs details we sent him on a proforma, the bank told us he done 5 in the same branch in the same day.

    I always thought with cheques after 5 days the money was safe but the bank inform us you can draw on the fund but the cheque can still be canceled up to 7working days meaning you then owe the bank money.

    I was wondering why he did not purchase from our online shop but he would of had to pay by card..

  • David Hammond

    Member
    October 3, 2014 at 3:16 pm

    I believe that some banks don’t show it a cheque paid in on the statement as its not used the creidt slips, and its done over the counter in any bank.

    So for some it will look like a bacs payment.

    We had a supplier pay our cheque (and a bundle others) into our account by mistake. It didn’t show as a cheque payment just had the branch sortcode as the reference.

    Always worth doing some background checks on a new customer.

  • Raymond Doyle

    Member
    October 3, 2014 at 5:25 pm

    Because my main product is blinds I am a member of the BBSA (British blinds & shutter association). One of the many benefits I get is free credit checks & company background checks. I’m not sure if this is something available through any of the sign/print associations but perhaps if there is any influential members of those trade bodies who read these threads they could see if it’s feasible to offer such a benefit, maybe Rob could explore the possibilities.
    The reasons these scams work is despite the many folk on this thread alone who are too "wide" to get caught out there is folk who for whatever reason fall for it, meaning the fraudsters keep doing it.

  • Jon Marshall

    Member
    October 6, 2014 at 9:17 am

    Actually, I do remember getting one of those emails. I ignored it though as the poor English made it obvious it was one of those scams you get when selling a car.

  • David Hammond

    Member
    October 17, 2014 at 10:27 am

    Interestingly, we’re currently quoting on 12 banners for "James" that he need to take back to Ghana with him on Wednesday 😕

    Our credit checking agents, can’t find anything about him or their company. 🙄

  • John Singh

    Member
    October 17, 2014 at 10:32 am
    quote David Hammond:

    Interestingly, we’re currently quoting on 12 banners for “James” that he need to take back to Ghana with him on Wednesday 😕

    Our credit checking agents, can’t find anything about him or their company. 🙄

    Ghana is a long, long, long,long way

  • Lee Reeves

    Member
    October 17, 2014 at 10:32 am

    We had the cheque returned to us by the bank the bank account was closed and the signature did not match the account holder. We have not had any more emails.

  • David Hammond

    Member
    October 17, 2014 at 3:21 pm

    Seem’s like a legitimate job to my surprise.

    Recommended to us by a trade customer of ours, who I’ve rang and have given me a reference.

    Substantial deposit paid by debit card, and the materials are on order. 😉

    Our apprentice will be busy on Monday :lol1:

    @john I’m glad I am not delivering them Ghana. :vomit:

  • David Rogers

    Member
    October 17, 2014 at 8:05 pm
    quote David Hammond:

    Seem’s like a legitimate job to my surprise.

    Recommended to us by a trade customer of ours, who I’ve rang and have given me a reference.

    Substantial deposit paid by debit card, and the materials are on order. 😉

    Our apprentice will be busy on Monday :lol1:

    @john I’m glad I am not delivering them Ghana. :vomit:

    Hope it’s OK, but stolen or cloned cards on rush jobs via phone or email that doesn’t relate to a company and being taken out of the country are a well known scam which they will just reverse the payment for fraud.

    I’ve even had hacked email accounts from large companies used in an attempt to place too good to be true.

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