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  • Vinyl longevity, advice needed please?

     Jeff Rea updated 4 months, 1 week ago 5 Members · 8 Posts
  • Myriam Garrido

    Member
    May 10, 2021 at 10:18 am

    Hi All

    Have a potential project for a school refacing their facias (about 300m of it) in a satin (preferable) or matt mid grey colour.

    The panels are a 7mm flat laminate just screwed to batten however the panels are up pretty high so a lot of them are well exposed to UV/Sunlight.

    Product longevity needs to be at least 10 years+. Any offers for products that would suit – more so for colour fastness? Any likely issues with the vinyl splitting when exposed to the sun (colour of current laminate is a pale orangey yellow so if it cracks with contraction it will look pretty bad !)

    Thanks in advance

  • Karen White

    Member
    May 10, 2021 at 10:26 am

    Hi Myriam

    I am not the best to advise here but i would say for long term work i would use cast. not easy to apply though!

  • Myriam Garrido

    Member
    May 10, 2021 at 12:51 pm

    Hi Karen

    Just been in touch with Avery and they do a vinyl specifically for buildings so we’ll see what they come back with price wise. Cast would have the longevity we need but is so floppy to use without application tape. There’s about 200m+ so needs to be fairly user friendly !

  • Graham Scanlan

    Member
    May 10, 2021 at 5:36 pm

    Hi Myriam

    Cast vinyl is the only way to go if you want that kind of like expectancy

    If I can point you in the direction of 2 films

    1, is avery facade film, that comes with a 10 year warranty

    https://graphics.averydennison.eu/en/home/graphics-products/facade-film.html

    2, is avery 900 super cast and that offers a 12 year warranty, if your looking for 300mtrs + you can have a specific colour made for you

    https://graphics.averydennison.eu/en/home/graphics-products/screen-and-cut-materials/opaque-sign-cut-films/900-super-cast.html

    I’m not necessarily on here to pitch for business however if you do want costings please let me know

  • Myriam Garrido

    Member
    May 10, 2021 at 7:40 pm

    Hi Graham

    Thanks for your reply. Yes have already requested a quote and some samples having seen these on the Avery website through Allprint supplies.

    Will see what they come back with !

    Cheers

    Myriam

  • Robert Lambie

    Administrator
    May 11, 2021 at 1:39 am

    Cast, all the way if you want to give some sort of long life expectancy.

    Avery does the facade vinyl like has been said, but I know they don’t do a satin finish in it because I looked into this for a job of my own.

    I understand your concern over the install feel of the film, but if your using a cast facade film, it will handle pretty much the same as a regular cast, but the air release adhesive system will help a lot.
    Just be sure not to apply in direct sunlight as it will increase the initial tack of the vinyl and make it soft and stretchy when working with it.

  • Myriam Garrido

    Member
    May 20, 2021 at 6:17 am

    Hi Rob.

    Cheers for your advice. Yeah when a novice tried to apply in direct sunlight and it causes all sorts of grief !

    Finally have a RAL colour (7016 an anthracite grey) so on the hunt for swatches close to this.

    A concern is whether to wrap the vinyl around the edges and stick to the back. The board it’s going onto is a 7mm laminate so has sharpe edges. If wrapping it around after a time of expansion and contraction the worry would be it tearing. We have considered routing the edges to remove the sharpeness. If you have any experience of the best way your knowledge is appreciated.

    Also considering a vinyl applicator (similar for that used with application tape) given the volume of panels that has to be done but would prefer one that you can tension the rollers slightly as normal ones can cause vinyl to sag when pushing a board through so that’s on the list to try and find too.

    Such a simple job but has thrown a few spanners in the mix !

  • Jeff Rea

    Member
    May 24, 2021 at 9:36 am

    being colour stable is one thing, ease of application another. but you may be being over cautious on what you are being asked of Myriam. i think the cast facade vinyl being applied properly is all that can be expected of your services. routering edges and so on. in the chance it may be expands and contract is not your concern surely? at the end of the day your using a premium vinyl for this line of work..

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