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  • Tray signs, how tight do you fit the angle within the tray

     Martin Cole updated 1 week, 4 days ago 6 Members · 11 Posts
  • Martyn Heath

    Member
    June 2, 2021 at 8:55 am

    Hi everyone, been wondering how much wiggle room you leave yourself when fitting tray signs.

    Im talking about the ali angle we fit to the wall. Do you allow a few mm vertically, 5mm or as snug as you can.

    Thanks

  • Martin Cole

    Member
    June 2, 2021 at 11:32 am

    Personally, I fit as snug as I can then the tray will sit tight while you fix, that’s composite or ally.

    Fitted many over the years and rarely a problem, worst thing is making the space between angles to big 😭 done that a couple of times.

    We normally cut a piece of wood the exact depth for the bottom angle to be fitted.

    Also made a frame a couple of times which some prefer.

    Did this one a couple of weeks ago, went like a dream

  • Kevin Mahoney

    Member
    June 2, 2021 at 12:27 pm

    Agreed, no more than 1-2mm of play & the tray doesn’t move or buckle while you’re fixing.

    Nice job Martin, where did you get the trough light, looks similar to ones we bought in a month ago

  • Tim Hobbs

    Member
    June 2, 2021 at 4:58 pm

    I’d agree with Martin and Kevin also.

    The ali angle often has a bit of give anyway. Particularly when fixing to cladded units as in Martin’s example. Not so much on a stone wall but we always fit as snug as possible and we’ve done a lot of tray signs over the years.

  • Robert Lambie

    Administrator
    June 3, 2021 at 12:12 am

    I prefer as snug a fit as I can get.
    we build the internal angle into a frame, to maintain a nice fit. assemble the whole thing in-house before transporting it to the site.

    I prefer the finish of coloured rivets. the trouble is, if your frame is not a snug fit, the sides of the pan can pinch in and can give a sort of wavey side/look to the tray and that really gripes me.
    obviously, if you are using screws into the frame, you only tighten it till you feel it’s secure. rather than over tighten it and again, causing pinching of the sides if the frame is not a snug fit.

    Nice big sign martin, great to see! 👍
    it looks about 2.5m deep, is this aluminium or composite?
    assuming you have multiple panels joining across the length of the sign, how do you create your joins mate? they look nice and neat and flush.

  • Martyn Heath

    Member
    June 3, 2021 at 7:24 am

    Cheers guys, exactly the info i was looking for

  • Martin Cole

    Member
    June 3, 2021 at 8:14 am

    Hi Kev,

    The light was supplied by the client being electrical supplies.

    I actually use Ashby trough lights now, LED ones look so much better these days than the old tubed versions.

    Hi Rob,

    The sign 7400 x 2440 is alluminium in 5 section,

    Vertical interlocking bars on joining edges, fitted together beautifully.

    Tray supplied by Ashby.

    • Kevin Mahoney

      Member
      June 3, 2021 at 8:21 am

      Really nice job mate. Was it tricky to fit it going uphill? 😀

  • Jeff Rea

    Member
    June 6, 2021 at 9:53 pm

    Great looking sign and big!

    just out of curiosity martin. how did you support the middle areas of the centre trays?
    I mean, you obviously do not have returns in the middle, so there will be a flex inwards, or do they have spacers to hold it out from the wall behind the panels or something?

  • Robert Lambie

    Administrator
    June 7, 2021 at 9:37 am

    Hi Rob,
    The sign 7400 x 2440 is alluminium in 5 section, Vertical interlocking bars on joining edges, fitted together beautifully. Tray supplied by Ashby.

    Do you mean a bit like a tongue and groove join, Martin?

    • Martin Cole

      Member
      June 7, 2021 at 1:47 pm

      Correct Rob, it makes joining the panels much easier and neater.

      Hi Jeff,

      No support, in the middle, just the top and bottom rails.

      The fixing bars on the edges helped make the panels rigid even at 2440 deep there was no flex at all once fitted.

      If it was ACM it would have needed more strengthening strips for sure

      Being ally it was a fair weight so we screwed the rails right through the building into thick wooden batons that we fitted on the inside.

      Lol Kev, It was actually on a slight slope😉

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