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  • Roland TrueVis SG Printers, views and opinions please?

    Posted by Richard Urquhart on May 21, 2018 at 5:51 pm

    Hi all after some time we’re looking at a new print and cut machine and value for money this Roland is coming out tops, has anyone in here got one ? I’ve had my current Roland for many years and is still perfect, this one uses new truevis ink and wanted to know if it smells worse or on a similar level to ecosol max ink ? Thanks Rich

    Neil Robinson replied 3 years, 2 months ago 8 Members · 28 Replies
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  • Alex Crosbie

    Member
    May 21, 2018 at 5:57 pm

    Hi rich
    There was a thread recently on here that was talking about the issues that truevis owners are having with the ink thinning during vehicle wrapping. Apparently some manufacturers won’t warranty issues with vehicle wrap materials on truevis printers that involve the print going light on stretched areas.

    The thread wasn’t very long ago so worth a search

    Alex

  • Richard Urquhart

    Member
    May 21, 2018 at 6:09 pm

    Wow thanks Alex

  • Stephen Morriss

    Member
    May 22, 2018 at 1:52 pm

    We’ve got a TrueVis SG540 and had an SP540 before that.
    I’ve no experience with doing full vehicle wraps with the prints but the printer uses less ink than our old SP and it’s a lot faster, had it for nearly a year and it’s be very easy to get along with so far.
    Overall it’s a better printer and the inks don’t smell any more than the Max inks and no one that comes into the office makes any comments about smell.

    Steve

  • Richard Urquhart

    Member
    May 22, 2018 at 2:21 pm

    Brill thats a great reply and sounds good about the ink, thank mate

  • Jason Davies

    Member
    January 2, 2019 at 12:42 pm

    Rich, did you purchase in the end? Steve anymore feedback? Probably looking to upgrade in the next month or so. I see the VSis are still available but I like the look and the speed of the TrueVis.

    Any feedback greatly appreciated.

    J

  • Richard Urquhart

    Member
    January 2, 2019 at 1:09 pm

    Hi mate we were going to go ahead but the unit I needed didn’t come off so lack space which is a massive shame for now !

  • Stephen Morriss

    Member
    January 2, 2019 at 3:00 pm

    So far it’s been easy to look after and the print results are still great, happy with it and still on Roland inks.

    Steve

  • Jason Davies

    Member
    January 2, 2019 at 3:04 pm

    Thanks both, will get some quotes in.

  • Jason Davies

    Member
    January 23, 2019 at 5:45 pm

    Just ordered a replacement, looking forward to having a new toy 🙂

  • Neil Robinson

    Member
    January 23, 2019 at 6:17 pm

    Hello, I joined this site 24 hours ago, with the intention of asking about peoples experience with a Roland TrueVIS SG 540. I have an offer to purchase one, need to make a decision asap. My main business is vehicle graphics, do some signs and window vinyl jobs which I’ve managed for 6 years using a Graphtec Plotter whilst buying prints in. My supplier of prints is now charging £45 a square metre, so I deffo need a printer, should I buy this machine? And Thankyou in advance.

  • Stephen Morriss

    Member
    January 23, 2019 at 7:04 pm

    Only you can truly answer that question but the SG540 is a fast capable printer and should cover you’re needs.

    Steve

  • Neil Robinson

    Member
    January 23, 2019 at 11:23 pm

    Thanks Steve, this machine is available for 6k, and its never had an ink change, seems too good to be true. I have used Mimaki printers in the past, and have seen the Versacamm, I’m hoping this machine is better than those, but is it??

  • Chris Wilson Chris Wilson

    Member
    January 24, 2019 at 7:19 am

    For 6k I don’t know why you are stalling? Am guessing this is a second user machine? Or have you missed a 1 before 6.

    Call Roland. They can run a test on the machine is its second hand. If it’s all good you can put it under care so any major issue with it will no be paid for by them.

  • Jason Davies

    Member
    January 24, 2019 at 7:36 am

    I agree, warranty has to be priority. Normally if things are to good to be true then they are.

    Good luck

  • Stephen Morriss

    Member
    January 24, 2019 at 9:30 am

    For 6K it’s a no brainer if you’ve got the work for it.
    Make sure it’s got a good nozzle check and go through the manual clean process to check for ink buildup on the heads.

    Steve

  • Neil Robinson

    Member
    January 24, 2019 at 9:54 am

    Thanks for everyone’s input, think I am going to go ahead and buy it. Seems to have mixed reviews online but I haven’t read anything really bad. I do have a printer salesman telling me not to buy it, although he wants to sell me one of his. Next issue is moving it, its 40 miles from me.

  • Chris Wilson Chris Wilson

    Member
    January 24, 2019 at 10:34 am

    Would of had a head clamp come with it when it was new I would of thought.

    Will be a YouTube video on what to do. Best to have 3 or 4 people of you can though.

    And it can never be to secure in the van

  • Stephen Morriss

    Member
    January 24, 2019 at 11:12 am

    The transport procedure is in the manual, it also says about emptying the inks but I’d not bother doing that, just fit the head clamp, I think it’s stored under the printer behind the ink bottle, load the printer carefully and take the smoothest route home, unload and get the power on ASAP, do a clean and nozzle check again (don’t forget to remove the clamp)

    Keep a full set of inks on standby and also get the cleaning cartridge as it doesn’t give you much warning when it’s about to run out. (fits in at the head end of the printer)

    Steve

  • Neil Robinson

    Member
    January 24, 2019 at 6:58 pm

    Ok, I’ve decided to buy the Truevis, I will let you all know how I get on, and Thanks for your advice it’s much appreciated. I have been reading posts on here for a few years but never been a member, maybe I can return the favour some time. Cheers!!

  • Deleted User

    Deleted User
    January 29, 2019 at 12:09 pm

    Hi.

    I have had the truevis for over the year now, its the top of the range with all the 8 colour config. All I can say supper happy with it and the machine has already paid itself off in just a few months. Not had any issues with it, other then from time to time if I return it would just flash a red light, quick switch off and back on and back to normal. Still original heads, still working as when purchased. Cleaned and maintained weekly. Would recommend.

    Thanks

  • Neil Robinson

    Member
    March 5, 2019 at 7:54 pm

    Good Evening, I bought a Roland Truevis SG 540, back in January, made a couple of previous posts on this thread. Well it’s taken till today to actually find somewhere to keep it, it’s been stored but plugged in with a test print every 3 days or so, and I’ve done a little print today which came out great. Thing is I’m on a learning curve here, and was wondering how do you adjust the media width setting?, its got a 720 roll in it, but say’s 1100 and when I adjust it won’t go higher than 1100, reading the manual it says it goes off the pinch rollers, bare in mind it’s my first half a day using this, so be nice. Thanks in advance.

  • Chris Wilson Chris Wilson

    Member
    March 5, 2019 at 8:09 pm

    On our machine we have 2 pinch rollers with a blue mark than 7 we can put in and out. The ones with the blue mark are the ones it reads, so should be on outside edge of the media for both..

    That could not be the answer as I don’t have this machine.

  • Neil Robinson

    Member
    March 5, 2019 at 8:41 pm
    quote Chris Wilson:

    On our machine we have 2 pinch rollers with a blue mark than 7 we can put in and out. The ones with the blue mark are the ones it reads, so should be on outside edge of the media for both..

    That could not be the answer as I don’t have this machine.

    Yes the rollers with the blue marks are at each end of the full set, but it reads 1100, which is neither where the blue rollers are or the width of the vinyl. Also when I try to adjust on the settings it stops at 1100.

  • Stephen Morriss

    Member
    March 6, 2019 at 10:20 am

    This may be a setting in Versaworks, download and use version 6 as it seems better than Dual, or a setting in the printer panel. You may be better contacting Roland DG directly as they are usually very helpful.

    Steve

  • Neil Robinson

    Member
    March 6, 2019 at 8:30 pm
    quote Stephen Morriss:

    This may be a setting in Versaworks, download and use version 6 as it seems better than Dual, or a setting in the printer panel. You may be better contacting Roland DG directly as they are usually very helpful.

    Steve

    Thanks Steve, I seem to have sorted this issue today. Done a few 500mm wide JPEG prints and they’ve come out great. Another thing I noticed today though was the heater was significantly warmer on the right hand side than the left, is this normal?, Each side was warm, but the right hand side was a lot warmer?

  • Robert Lambie Robert Lambie

    Member
    March 6, 2019 at 11:23 pm
    quote Alex Crosbie:

    There was a thread recently on here that was talking about the issues that truevis owners are having with the ink thinning during vehicle wrapping. Apparently some manufacturers won’t warranty issues with vehicle wrap materials on truevis printers that involve the print going light on stretched areas.

    Not being funny, but what has the ink colour density thinning got to do with vehicle wrap vinyl warranty?
    Every brand of ink will colour shift to some degree when it is stretched. more so if stretched/wrapped wrong.

    I doubt that when printer manufacturers are profiling media for its printers, that they consider how the print output will look "after it has been stretched". The most probable reason for colour shift is that the wrapping film has been stretched too far or wrong.

    What vinyl manufacturers are voiding the use of their media with these printers

  • Alex Crosbie

    Member
    March 7, 2019 at 6:46 am

    Hi Robert
    Thanks for your reply.
    You’re absolutely correct, however the manufacturer tests were showing that the truevis inks couldn’t handle a very minimal amount of stretch without losing colour density.

    I have no vested interest from either vinyl manufacturer or a printer point of view, I’m merely relaying what I had been told by an industry contact in a chat about current printer technology.

    It was meant more as a pointer for things to test when comparing printers, I wouldn’t take anything read on a forum as gospel when parting with a large amount of cash!

    For the record I have used Roland printers extensively for the last 18 years and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future, the machines they create have changed our industry and partnered with the correct vinyl they provide the highest level of performance.

  • Neil Robinson

    Member
    March 7, 2019 at 8:12 pm

    I tried stretching a print today off the Truevis and as said it doesn’t stretch well at all, I’d say 5mm stretch, heated up, and the colour is thinning for sure. This machine is running off ink installed last August, my first few days playing around with it. For me its not that relevant as I don’t intend doing vehicle wraps, but I’d considered doing them in the future maybe? I read on here that the ink has been modified to sort this, but I won’t know till I order some new ink, and theirs still 75% in the current ones. Overall though I’m happy with the print quality, and its ultra scratch proof, another test I did today, so great for anything other than wraps.