Positive Covid results and self isolationPosted by Iain George on September 10, 2021 at 12:34 pm
I am sure I am not the only one in this situation. I decided to set up as a LTD company this year so am now a director and am employee. I fully understand that I can pay myself SSP or whatever wages I want whilst self isolating but as I am essentially a one man band I am having to shut my shop for 10 days. Is there anything that I can do for loss of earnings for the company as its only member of staff, me can’t work for 10 days. How can I keep the printers printing? If I am caught out of my house I can be fined. Or do I just say sod it and go to the shop, lock the doors and just get on with work anyway but without customer contact for now.
I don’t have access to Clarity or Coreldraw from home so I have to go to the shop to even get quotes and artwork done. I have always kept work out of the house where possible.
MemberSeptember 10, 2021 at 4:47 pm
You have my sympathy Iain. I think a lot of small ltd companies lost out on many of the generous help that was dished out by the chancellor for the self employed. You picked an unfortunate time to go limited. But there is help in the form of discretionary grants for businesses and you should apply to your local council. Meanwhile, I would do as you have suggested and continue to self isolate at your workplace where you can lock the door and only interact by phone or email and still continue to produce. After all common sense says if you’re not coming into contact with anyone at all how can you pass the virus on (assuming you actually have the virus in the first place)? At least that’s what I would do – rightly or wrongly.
MemberSeptember 10, 2021 at 5:21 pm
I’m full of a cold at the moment, the home test kit came back negative. Like you I can’t afford to shut up shop.
Our neighbour on the estate had a member of staff come in with a cough, they asked him if he wouldn’t mind getting tested.
He declined as he had a holiday abroad booked, but could choose to self isolate at home for 10 days whilst still getting paid!
MemberSeptember 11, 2021 at 5:38 am
Personally, I’d be at work with the door locked. You won’t be a risk to anybody in your van or your workshop. I’ve come across all manner of covid dodges since this whole drama began, people leaving their phone at home to avoid being tracked, dodgy permission letters for being front line workers & some downright ridiculous ideas to avoid playing by the rules. I wouldn’t condemn anyone for keeping their business afloat & paying their own way providing they’ve taken the necessary steps to avoid spreading the virus, especially as you haven’t had much in the way of financial assistance. None of this ’free’ money is really free anyway. We are all going to pay for this a 100 times over going forward.
AdministratorSeptember 11, 2021 at 4:00 pm
as has been said already, if it was me, i would drive to work and lock the door behind me. get on with your business without contact with anyone.
put a sign on the door shutter saying something like…
“due to unforeseen circumstances, the workshop will be closed for two weeks. But you are still accepting orders and enquiries via… and leave your number and email”
any orders that you do get, just delay the turnaround or installation time to suit the closure period.
for those wanting to pick their signs up, just wear the following PPE and keep well back? 🤔
MemberSeptember 12, 2021 at 11:22 am
I think the idea is to keep well away from other people and as long as you can do that to get to work and do your job, i do not see how there could be a problem. you are going to work to keep your business alive and put food on your table.
MemberSeptember 14, 2021 at 9:47 am
Self iscolate is self iscolate, mate.
As long as you are behind closed doors and not dealing directly with the public, then you are doing nothing wrong. If it was me and i was feeling fit enough to work, then that is what i would do. 👍
MemberSeptember 17, 2021 at 10:00 am
I’m lucky (also unlucky) that my workshop is just across the yard from my house so for me I’d just carry on (and did last April without realising I had covid!)
The only problem for you is if you’re traveling and need to fill up your transport with fuel, you could get a family member to fill it up but then that raises a whole new set of problems.
Ultimately we’ve got to now live with this so it’ll not be long before it’s all swept under the carpet and carry on as normal.
MemberSeptember 17, 2021 at 2:35 pm
Well that didn’t work, someone has grassed me up. Done lateral flow tests since Saturday after my positive PCR test on Friday. Tested negative on Monday night and Tuesday so went to the office on Tuesday to run the machines and kept the door locked. Went in on Thursday as well as that was day 10. Have just been visited by the Police and may be facing a fine and prosecution.
MemberSeptember 17, 2021 at 2:37 pm
Well that’s shit.
On what grounds, and on what evidence?
Take it to court, and have them work for their money!
MemberSeptember 17, 2021 at 3:07 pm
Did they just walk in or was the door locked?
MemberSeptember 17, 2021 at 3:14 pm
They came to my home address today. I was out doing the weekly shop, my last day of actual isolation was yesterday and as my wife has now tested positive I needed to do the shopping , but they informed her that I had been reported breaking my isolation and had been seen in my shop and that they need to discuss these details with me.
- This reply was modified 1 year ago by Iain George.
MemberSeptember 17, 2021 at 3:41 pm
Obviously their speed detectors are in the repair shop today, must be tough filling a whole 8 hours without them. The workshop door was locked right? As far as I’m aware, a locked door has been proven to be far more effective against covid than a tissue face mask so I can’t see them setting up any roadblocks for you
- This reply was modified 1 year ago by Kevin Mahoney.
MemberSeptember 19, 2021 at 1:54 pm
I thought the rules (at least in England) are, provided you’re double jabbed, and not showing symptoms you don’t need to isolate if someone else in the house is positive? Or if they’re under 18.
If they visited and you were out of isolation, isn’t it a case of he said, she said? Where’s the evidence of you in a shop? What a waste of resources 👎
- This reply was modified 1 year ago by David Hammond.
MemberSeptember 19, 2021 at 5:39 pm
You are correct with this if I was negative but I actually tested positive on a PCR test so the rules state I must isolate for Ten Days and this can only be done in your own home. I asked NHS England for a ruling for my situation and they were unable to advise me but stated that the rules state you must stay in your property for 10 days.
AdministratorSeptember 19, 2021 at 5:06 pm
self-isolation is making sure you do not and cannot come into contact with others.
driving to work alone in your car and locking yourself in your workplace is no different from working from home, which you are allowed to do even if you have covid.
We live in a stupid world run by idiots.
MemberSeptember 19, 2021 at 5:40 pm
The rules state that if you test positive on a PCR test you are not allowed to leave your own property under any circumstances.
MemberSeptember 19, 2021 at 6:06 pm
Does it specifically state your residential property? If you own or rent a commercial premises & work alone, is that not your private property? Personally I don’t see a difference where you isolate, your home & business have locking doors, providing nobody can enter, it makes no difference to the isolation. I would fancy my chances in court if it comes to that. So you had a negative test just after a positive one? Are these tests worth a toss at all? Are 50 negative tests overruled by one positive one? Which one do you take as accurate? Also, you have a responsibility to keep money coming in considering the millions of self employed left potless by the inadequate benefits & grants scheme. As for the informant, they may think they’re performing a public service (but I doubt it) but what goes around comes around, to deliberately sabotage somebody earning a crust is deplorable in my opinion
MemberSeptember 22, 2021 at 11:55 am
Even if you’re house is burning down lol? Seriously, it’s yet another case of a state where no common sense applies anymore and over officious rules are there just there so people can be fined, because it’s just about money like it always is.
I would like to think you could explain to the Police that you had no choice but to work on your business, but in isolation, and that they could be lenient and apply some common sense, but I don’t fancy your chances. There has been plenty of lockdown footage showing the Police enforcing some of these so called rules in very heavy handed fashion. Power trip!
MemberSeptember 19, 2021 at 5:20 pm
Any idea who grassed you up to the police? Its despicable, haven’t people got better things to do in their lives? Maybe a competitor who read about your concerns here?
MemberSeptember 21, 2021 at 10:47 am
I would guess the reasoning is if you had a crash on the way to work, you could suddenly be in contact with emergency services, passersby, taken to hospital etc.. appreciate you could still have an accident in the house but its one less chance of spreading..*
*don’t get me wrong, i’d more than likely be in the office regardless!