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  • Perforation Cutting, should i use it?

     David Hammond updated 3 months, 2 weeks ago 4 Members · 11 Posts
  • Leslie Anderson

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    July 13, 2021 at 7:27 am

    I have watched youtube videos on perforation cutting and I am not having much success with it. My question is, does anyone use this function or is it purely for small amounts of small stickers?

    I am thinking it would be great if the machine could do this and save me standing cutting up everything into batches, but if its faster doing it by hand i will just do that.

  • Simon Worrall

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    July 13, 2021 at 9:11 am

    I do a lot of large decals for agricultural equipment, which involve some fairly close registration with the machinery, with rounded corners and sometimes quite complex shapes. I use 3M printed wrap vinyl without any application tape.
    Perforation cutting is a godsend for this job, its really easy to line it up, hold it with magnets, and tape one end, then work down the length with a felt squeegee. Both sides of this bin took about 40 minutes to apply for one man. Its about 3 meters long.
    On the other hand, TBH, cutting out the backing of small stickers is usually much quicker by hand, unless you have a gigantic order to do or they absolutely have to line up in a particular way.

  • Jamie Wood

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    July 13, 2021 at 11:58 am

    We use it all the time, to cut printed rolls into manageable sheets for our guillotine. It may be less useful if you don’t have a guillotine, but still enables you to convert rolls into sheets for trimming.

  • Leslie Anderson

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    July 13, 2021 at 12:03 pm

    Hi Simon
    Thank you for the reply.
    Do you mean you perforate cut that big print? if so, brilliant! I wasn’t thinking anything as large as that being possible. I was thinking more covid social stickers being round but about 12-16 inches high and A4 and A3 size stickers.
    It would just help me out if the cutter was cutting away in the background while I got on with other things as I work on my own. It would also help prevent me from losing a finger trimming stickers.
    Just so I am explaining myself properly. when I say perforated I mean cutting through the vinyl and the paper leaving tabs, but not just contour cutting the vinyl. if that makes sense?

    Can I also ask what software you are using?

    thank you so much.

  • Leslie Anderson

    Member
    July 13, 2021 at 12:37 pm

    thank you @Jamie-Wood

    I do not have a guillotine but as much as lots are squares and rectangles, lots are also odd shapes and circles. I didnt think about a guillotine though, that may be worth looking into or are you talking about a big thing, not a hand pull one like in school? 😳😂

    • Jamie Wood

      Member
      July 13, 2021 at 12:54 pm

      We have an industrial guillotine, as we do a lot of trimming. If labels are kiss-cut to a shape, we always leave them on a rectangle to make trimming easier. You may be able to use a cutter bar instead of a guillotine for smaller quantities.

  • Leslie Anderson

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    July 13, 2021 at 1:14 pm

    Thanks Jamie. What is a “cutter bar”?

    sorry for all the questions. 😳

    • Jamie Wood

      Member
      July 13, 2021 at 2:39 pm

      Something like a Keencut Evolution, or Keencut Straight Edge would be suitable.

  • Simon Worrall

    Member
    July 13, 2021 at 7:21 pm

    Leslie answering questions is the reason we are here lol.

    I have a graphtec fc 8600.

    I use cutting master #3 (stopped at #3 because its good. #4 and up is a load of Bo**ox)

    Perf cutting on this machine involves changing the position of the blade and changing the cutting “condition” which is a bit fiddly and time consuming. Certainly the runs of stickers I have ever done have been under a thousand, so definitely quicker to cut into strips by hand, once youve set up the machine and then reset it for normal use, not to mention the extra work in illustrator drawing the paths. I dont know how its done on the summa tbh.

    • Jamie Wood

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      July 14, 2021 at 7:06 am

      We have a Graphtec FC9000. Kiss-cutting and die cutting can be done in one operation on this model. We put the blade holder in the front position, then use condition 7 for kiss cutting, followed by condition 8 for die cutting. We set the cut paths in different layers in Illustrator. It might be worth checking if you can do this on the FC8600. On our old Mimaki plotters, we had to change the blade holder positions between kiss cutting and die cutting, so the Graphtec is better in this respect. Cutting Master 4 came with this plotter, so I can’t comment on whether it’s better than V3, but we’re getting on OK with it so far.

  • David Hammond

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    July 14, 2021 at 7:42 am

    We do some perf cutting on our FC8600.

    I think Jamie’s right, you could (in theory) cut the vinyl with the pen over the perf cut grove, adjusting the pressure to suit, then you wouldn’t need to swap the blade position, and have two paths in CM.

    I find using the Graphtec Blade holder much better than the smart knives as it gives much better control over the blade depth.

    Once you’ve set the blade depth, pressure, and the cut pattern, it’s quite easy. I’d recommend doing a test, not the condition test cut as it’s useless for the Perf Cut, to make sure you’re happy.

    Two things happen when it’s not right – Your stickers fall out as it feeds into the machine, resulting in a catastrophic jam, or they don’t pop out when you want them too.

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