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  • Iain George

    Member
    June 5, 2020 at 10:32 am

    Morning everyone

    I have a job of 250 A5 stickers to produce. I am fine with the print and cut but am wondering how to add a perf cut to make them easier to handle for my client and also so I havent got to cut them all down myself once printed.
    I have tried googling but there seems to be Flexicut or not to use Flexicut. In the menu there also seems to be half cut and perf cut also a perf cut tool.

    TIA

    Iain

  • Gary Forbes

    Member
    June 6, 2020 at 9:23 pm

    I am wanting to do the same with signlab and Graphtec.
    if i find anything i will post back here. it is a common thing, so can’t be that difficult, but I’ve never needed it until now.

  • Chris Wool

    Member
    June 6, 2020 at 10:23 pm

    Ian to be honest to cut up 250 a5 after weeding would be quicker to cut them on the bench and quieter also next to no risk of stuffing the job up. yes i use perfcut on my systems but wouldn’t for that.

  • Iain George

    Member
    June 7, 2020 at 6:55 am
    quote Chris Wool:

    Ian to be honest to cut up 250 a5 after weeding would be quicker to cut them on the bench and quieter also next to no risk of stuffing the job up. yes i use perfcut on my systems but wouldn’t for that.

    Can I ask what you use the perf cut for? I assumed this job was a perfect use for it or is there a large risk of it stuffing up as you say. I have never even seen it working in real life only on videos.

  • Chris Wool

    Member
    June 7, 2020 at 2:50 pm

    Ian we do a fare amount of MX type graphics which cutting the backing paper to the same as the graphic makes fitting easier, is the main reason.
    the problem is that the cutpath being perfcut takes many times longer to cut that a normal media only cut the continual tapping noise is annoying at best and extra ware on the machine. knifes – knife holder.. the summa is normally regarded as the best in the class but it only takes one a5 to break loose in the middle of a sheet and the sheet ruined from there on due to the integrity of the sheet is lost and so the registration.
    for your sort of job i would space the a5 5 mm apart print and lam cut then weed on a cutting table (mines glass) and run a knife between the a5s easy to do by eye and the weeding in place normally creates enough static to hold the sheet in place while you cut.
    if you wanted to supply the a5s with the backing paper cut to a5 as well then you would have to do a standard cut first then do a perfcut and hope the registration has not moved. if you dont do the standard cut first the sticker will have a perforated edge.

  • Iain George

    Member
    June 7, 2020 at 2:53 pm

    This is what I was intending to do but just thought that is what the perf cut was supposed to help with, it does sound as though it would be more hassle than it is worth.

  • Alex Crosbie

    Member
    June 7, 2020 at 6:09 pm

    Totally agree with chris, I have a summa which I’ve used the perf cut on but I found that someone had to watch it perf cut just in case. Also if the perf cut doesn’t work perfectly then you may end up scrapping the sheet.

    We do large runs of stickers that need to be cut to sheets, it’s much faster to kiss cut them on the cutter and then cut them to sheets on a bench, that way the cutter can get on with cutting the next job while you’re cutting to sheets.

    To speed up the operation a little further we use a powered rotary trimmer to trim to sheets

  • Iain George

    Member
    June 7, 2020 at 6:15 pm

    Okay that seems to answer my question. I will just print, cut, weed and then trim to size.

    Thank you everyone.

  • Simon Worrall

    Member
    June 10, 2020 at 5:47 am

    There seems to be a parallel thread on perf cutting, for the fc 8600.

    Chris wool you have a point,
    I use it Not so much for stickers, but large prints that have to be placed exactly on a thing.

    They can be much more precisely placed if the vinyl edge is also the paper edge.
    There is no more guess work because you cant see the line etc.

    Having said that, perf cut stickers are much nicer for the customer and you can charge for doing it.

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