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  • Clarkson: Should he go?

  • Harry Cleary

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    November 4, 2008 at 9:47 am

    Was he wrong to use this joke? (Must say, I watch this with my son and I did wince, seemed pretty wrongheaded to me)
    http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/latest/2 … -20867444/

  • Chris Wool

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    November 4, 2008 at 9:52 am

    smack his hand and get on with a fun show.

    chris

  • Phill Fenton

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    November 4, 2008 at 10:05 am

    I thought it was funny. Not quite in the same league as insulting an individual such as Andrew Sachs (by the way did you know that Jonathan Ross and Russel Brand have been placed on the Sachs offenders register) 😕

    There seems to be a bit of a witch hunt going on at the BBC just now – are they trying to cut back on the wages bill maybe?

  • Paul Humble

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    November 4, 2008 at 3:02 pm

    Definately not.

  • David Rogers

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    November 4, 2008 at 3:21 pm

    His jibes and comments have always been a bit ‘iffy’, and he’s forever being reprimanded. It’s just the ‘Woss / Bland’ fiasco that’s putting him under scrutiny.

    Slapped on the wrist for smoking pipes in the studio / complaints made for drinking (in international waters) during polar challenge / slapped on hand for ‘gay’ remarks…the list goes on.

    End of last season…May, Ham & Clark arrive to do ‘battle’ in WW2 Spitfires with ‘ze Germans’ to the theme of ‘The Battle of Britain(?). Poke fun at Germans throughout the episode….not a chirp for the good ol’ British public.

    "Hello you industrious little fellows"…in reference to Far Eastern audiences…not a chirp…

    Dave

  • Adrian Yeo

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    November 4, 2008 at 3:45 pm

    Bloody hell….!!! Didn’t realise there was a ‘English Collective of Prostitutes’!

    Must be a big street corner! 😀

  • Hugh Potter

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    November 4, 2008 at 6:56 pm

    should he go? yeah… right into No.10!! common sense in the commons! then pat condell for home office, gene hunt, chief of police etc !

    Clarksons comments are always sailing a bit close to the wind, but most people, who have a sense of humour, can see that nothing is meant by them. I admit that even i suck air thru my teeth now and then at his comments, and i hate that, it’s all the politically correct conditioning we’ve been subjected to in the past 20yrs.

    one of the best shows on tv at the mo, imho.

  • Harry Cleary

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    November 4, 2008 at 7:50 pm

    2 voted for him to go but didn’t leave a comment…..hmmmm 🙄

  • Karl Williams

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    November 4, 2008 at 8:06 pm

    I voted no. He’s a funny bloke but he should also be a bit more mindful of what comes out of his gob!

  • Mike.Smith

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    November 4, 2008 at 8:30 pm

    I noticed the comment and did’nt find it funny.
    although he is sometimes a bit funny

  • Shane Drew

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    November 4, 2008 at 8:33 pm

    I love him, although we are a few seasons behind you guys.

    Sure, he may seem insensitive at times, and perhaps he should think a bit more before he comments, but end of the day, I’m guessing that is what makes him so popular.

    He does shoot from the hip.

    I’m with David Rogers though. The indignation is selective it seems.

    We have just got an Aussie version of the show here. Not the same, and the ratings are plummeting after the record high of the first show. Why? I’d reckon its because there is only one JC. Love him or hate him, he has a wonderful way with getting his views across, in a most humorous way, in the majority of cases. I’ve not seen a show where you could honestly sit there and say he was being vindictive. He relys heavily on his ‘straight men’ though. I think the BBC have more to worry about with the Sachs situation, which was disgusting IMO. Their attacks were much more personal, and is a very poor excuse for a laugh.

    We have two DJ’s here that model themselves after your UK guys, and they got the bullet on Friday.

  • Gareth.Lewis

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    November 4, 2008 at 10:21 pm

    I suppose it is a personal thing isn’t it? Some may find it offensive, others may not. It is now up to the powers that be to decide what to do.

    By the way, I voted yes.

    I don’t have telly at home but when I saw the clip on t’internet I was genuinely taken aback. Something not quite right with being allowed to say something like that (on tv specifically). I realise the bosses should have edited it but Clarkson said it without any assistance and thought it acceptable so maybe they should all at the very least apologise, but it still leaves a bad taste.

    Thing is, I’m not sure why I found it offensive, I just did.

  • David Rogers

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    November 4, 2008 at 11:36 pm

    But who here…or anywhere writes in to complain about Mock The Week and some of Frankie Boyle’s comments.

    …em, nobody. It’s taken for what is is and from who he is…it’s expected, but not overly enjoyed.

    He does ‘jokes’ on pedophilia, incest, bestiality, racial stereotypes, ethnic cleansing, recently dead public figures , disaster victims and executed electricians…the list of taboo subjects chosen specifically to get a response goes on.

    Yet ‘we’ all just ‘wince’, suck in some air and go ‘oooh, baaaad’.

    I can’t stand the British tabloid press…no, actually I can’t stand the press in general…lying, deceitful, scare mongering misery pimps.

  • Peter Normington

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    November 4, 2008 at 11:45 pm
    quote David Rogers:

    But who here…or anywhere writes in to complain about Mock The Week and some of Frankie Boyle’s comments.

    …em, nobody. It’s taken for what is is and from who he is…it’s expected, but not overly enjoyed.

    He does ‘jokes’ on pedophilia, incest, bestiality, racial stereotypes, ethnic cleansing, recently dead public figures , disaster victims and executed electricians…the list of taboo subjects chosen specifically to get a response goes on.

    Yet ‘we’ all just ‘wince’, suck in some air and go ‘oooh, baaaad’.

    I can’t stand the British tabloid press…no, actually I can’t stand the press in general…lying, deceitful, scare mongering misery pimps.

    Dave difference is, you are only one of two people that watch Mock the week; more than twenty have been known to tune into top gear, 😉

    Anyway Clarkson, as a motoring "journalist" is a joke anyway, and is tabloid tele to perfection, and fits your press description to a tee, but he is a good entertainer, if you like that sort of thing,

    Peter

  • David Rogers

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    November 5, 2008 at 12:17 am

    To be honest – Top Gear has generally sucked for the last 18 months. It’s now just 3 lads getting paid to aimlessly mess about. It’s just an entertainment show – a platform for Clarkson’s ego to stand upon.

    I realise Clarkson started as a journalist…and is still sort of one for a bit of a laugh with his ‘motoring’ column.

    Thing is…I quite like his brand of humour…

    What irks me is that a couple of jokes made in poor taste is getting the public (due to the press) more worried & worked up than the economy crashing, US presidency changing, the hundreds of deaths in the UK this winter from fuel poverty…etc.

    Nothing quite like the tabloid press to whip up the masses – wouldn’t stoop so low as to buy a paper if it was only for the bottom of a rat’s cage.

  • John Thomson

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    November 5, 2008 at 12:44 am

    I voted no…it is one of the few programs that I sit down to watch…….

    john

  • John Gregson

    Member
    November 5, 2008 at 9:17 am

    Personally I like the show and its addictive viewing. Clarkson does make you wince a bit with some of the things he comes out with but its part of the show – if you don’t like it don’t tune in.

    This joke was aired on Sunday – by Monday morning there were only 188 complaints. Then the newspapers and media got hold of the story and this figure leaps up to 517 complaints.

    Sometimes don’t you wish people would just get a life. 👿

  • David Rogers

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    November 5, 2008 at 9:27 am

    Can always reverse the trend…log onto the BBC website and do some feedback.

    Instead of complain…click ‘praise’…not just for T.G. but for anything we like & pay our fees for…that way we’ll maybe not have to endure quite so much drivel.

    Dave

  • Harry Cleary

    Member
    November 5, 2008 at 10:26 am

    Despite agreeing with a lot of what you say David, I think there has to be some safeguards, somebody has to moderate. It is getting to the stage where presenters seem to think that there is more to be made from bad publicity than good. It was the way that Clarkson repeatedly made the ‘joke’ that seemed sinister and self serving to me. It is now almost impossible to protect young ears from this kinda of stuff on TV (Clarkson and his producers are well aware that young kids enjoy this show as much as adults, it screens here before the watershed as does Mindbenders and Abomination Street) and I for one don’t like that trend, I think all children are better adults having had a well defined age of innocence. And the greatest crime is taking away a sense of wonder.
    Comedians making edgy and confrontational jokes are an entirely different matter, for instance, you would never allow a 10yr old to watch Little Britan or Bernard Manning, would you?
    As to Brand and Ross,(and I like both men) ask yourself what would have happened had they done this in a company or corporation?
    Labeling all people who complain as ‘sad old gits who need to get a life’ is wrong too. I make a point of it if I feel strongly about something. 😀

  • Steve Morgan

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    November 5, 2008 at 2:16 pm

    I think watching and listening with the family we tend to pick up on words and phrases that make us wince but I think that , particularly with the young ones they don’t really take that much notice unless it’s drawn to their attention by an adult. Probably going to be more impressed and remember the program when they see him blowing up a Routemaster bus or trashing yet another caravan.

    Harry, I bet you could make your son him wince if you told him to go and clear his room up in front of his mates, us adults wouldn’t even notice you saying it! 🙂

    Steve

  • Ivan Morley

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    November 5, 2008 at 2:26 pm

    I’m not too keen on the current format for the show – too many flash cars and practically none of the real every day value for money cars.

    But in todays PC world, it is refreshing to have a presenter who speaks his mind, and does his own stunts (if we believe what we see on tv).

    I would love to see the risk assessment for driving into a brick wall 😮 Perhaps this is the BBCs way of trying to get rid of him :lol1:

    Ivan

  • Kate Griffiths

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    November 5, 2008 at 4:51 pm

    definitely NO!!!!!! This country is getting far to PC about stuff, no one can voice their opinion without being slated for it. He was only having a laugh…I love Jezza 😳

  • Shane Drew

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    November 5, 2008 at 9:00 pm
    quote Harry Cleary:

    I for one don’t like that trend, I think all children are better adults having had a well defined age of innocence. And the greatest crime is taking away a sense of wonder.
    Comedians making edgy and confrontational jokes are an entirely different matter, for instance, you would never allow a 10yr old to watch Little Britan or Bernard Manning, would you?
    . 😀

    Harry, I’ve been constantly stunned at what children come out with these days, and JC’s humour is tame compared to what the kids hear and see these days.

    Little Briton (I hate the show with a passion) and such are certainly viewed by a younger audience, now that the shows are on DVD.

    I don’t even let my kids watch Neighbours or any of those ‘drama’ type shows. That’s not to say my kids are sheltered, but I’d rather be the one that answers questions about life, or define good humour, or family values, than the tv.

    Sadly I’m on my own for the most part. I’ve even been told, not letting my kids watch ‘harmless drama’ (with teenage sex, disprespect for parents, blah blah) amounts to child abuse.

    I was only watching a show the other day, and something came on that I felt uncomfortable watching with the kids present. Before I could say anything, my daughter left the room, and my son turned the telly off.

    When I asked him why he did that, he told me it was not the sort of show that he thought he should be watching.

    Its not that either is naive, but with the things he has to put up with at school, he doesn’t see the need to invite that into his personal space if he has control over the situation.

    Clearly from the comments here, JC’s show must have change a little from the seasons we are seeing, but our kids are faced with decisions everyday at school – taking drugs, smoking, se.x, bad language, filthy jokes – from my personal experience, JC’s humour wouldn’t bat an eyelid for most. They hear worse on the school bus from their mates unfortunately.

    Sadly, they lose their sense of wonder at an early age, because most parents of this generation were of the ‘less discipline, more freedom’ teaching of Dr Spock. He recently apologized for his poor advice, not that it helps us now.

    As far as the two DJ’s, and those of the same mold, are concerned, they just keep pushing the envelope, and are teaching our kids more about poor taste and sick humour than anything positive.

    Off my soapbox again 😳

  • Shane Drew

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    November 5, 2008 at 10:14 pm

    😛

  • Nicola McIntosh

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    November 5, 2008 at 10:27 pm

    keeping on topic, im with kate on this one too, but programmes before the water shed, should be programmes suitable for that time, after that if you dont like, press the button on your doot-doot 😉

    dont get rid of top-gear full stop, or jc i love cars 😉

    nik

  • Paul Humble

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    November 6, 2008 at 12:32 pm

    Jezza for Prime Minister!!

  • Steve Underhill

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    November 6, 2008 at 12:52 pm

    People should stop being so sensitive and PC
    Black jokes, white jokes, who cares they are just jokes, what about all the Irish jokes or Scottish & Welsh jokes that are told, they don’t all kick off about it, thats because they can see it for what it is, a bit o f harmless fun,
    maybe murdering prostitutes was a bit extreme, he could have maybe said "Put on another 8 stone in bacon butties at a truck stop"
    or "lie in the cab and knock one out to Razzle readers wives", but he didnt and theres no way he should be sacked for it,

    Make him prime minister I say.

  • Phill Fenton

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    November 6, 2008 at 12:59 pm

    I take it you used to drive trucks then Steve ? 😕

  • Steve Underhill

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    November 6, 2008 at 1:28 pm

    Never have nope, I have a normal sized body not trucker sized no bacon overdoses here.
    Oh hang on it could be all the razzles making me thin
    LOL
    I used to drive a 7.5 tonner but used to be asleep in it while meant to be working,
    (not while driving)

    And I have never murdered a prostitute intentionally, only the ones that stole my wallet.

  • David Rogers

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    November 9, 2008 at 7:57 pm

    TG’s about to start….

  • Robert Lambie

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    November 9, 2008 at 9:23 pm

    i haven’t read all the replies but get the jist of what its about.
    my view is the guy should definitely not be sacked… it is just like steve says… "a joke" too many over sensitive people out there with too much time on their hands to create a fuss. why is there not the same kind of public out cry when comedians like roy chubby brown and co. do their bit… is it only allowed for some and not others?

    anyway, let the guy get on with his life….

    right, now thats out the way, where is the ba$t%d that called me the girlie drinks short ar$ed opinionated haggis eating idiot??? 👿

    😉 :lol1: :lol1: :lol1: :lol1:

  • Peter Dee

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    November 10, 2008 at 8:34 am

    I just loved the apology he made on the program last night. Classic.

    As far as I’m concerned he is a demigod (as long as he gives me that Corvette ZR1).

  • Kate Griffiths

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    November 10, 2008 at 1:45 pm

    I agree Peter, an excellent apology last night… a classic J C moment!

  • Harry Cleary

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    November 10, 2008 at 3:01 pm

    Spotted in HMV in Dublin yesterday. 😀


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  • Brian Little

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    November 10, 2008 at 4:31 pm

    i missed the comment that that he said but my opinion is that we are all taking ourselves far to serious …..there just 3 public school boys larking about and getting paid for it its to be expected …. i think Graham Norton is far worse at times and not a word seems to be said

  • Craig Brown

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    November 10, 2008 at 4:59 pm
    quote Robert Lambie:

    iright, now thats out the way, where is the ba$t%d that called me the girlie drinks short ar$ed opinionated haggis eating idiot??? 👿

    Over here…but you were having such a nice time at the Sign Show didn’t think you noticed 😉

    Mod-Edit – as it’s Rob we will put the swear words back in

  • Robert Lambie

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    November 10, 2008 at 5:05 pm

    :lol1: :lol1: :lol1: :lol1: :lol1: :lol1: :lol1: :lol1:

    3 days drinking, i was lucky to notice anyone craig.
    i hate haggis but i am prone to some alcho-pops… strictly for hardened drinkers of course. 😉

  • John Cooper

    Member
    November 10, 2008 at 11:03 pm

    Clarkson apologised on Top Gear last night!

    All is forgiven 🙂

  • Chris Wool

    Member
    November 11, 2008 at 12:11 am

    he apologised for leaving a time out from the week before tongue in cheek though.
    i was waiting for his response that made me laugh.

    any way its a very factual program they said so
    😀

  • Brian Little

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    November 11, 2008 at 9:02 am
    quote Robert Lambie:

    i haven’t read all the replies but get the jist of what its about.
    my view is the guy should definitely not be sacked… it is just like steve says… “a joke” too many over sensitive people out there with too much time on their hands to create a fuss. why is there not the same kind of public out cry when comedians like roy chubby brown and co. do their bit… is it only allowed for some and not others?

    anyway, let the guy get on with his life….

    right, now thats out the way, where is the ba$t%d that called me the girlie drinks short ar$ed opinionated haggis eating idiot??? 👿

    well in my opinian ..and thats exactly all it can be is that the likes of roy chubby
    brown are doing it to a selective audience and are well aware what they are going to see. The difference is the television is such a powerfull media that you are always going to pick up the “super sentive ” that are easily offended ….coupled with newspaper coverage …result a raging firestorm.
    😉 :lol1: :lol1: :lol1: :lol1:

  • Brian Little

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    November 11, 2008 at 9:05 am

    hmm made a right backside out of paragraphing that …sorry folks last paragrapth is mine …tops robs …oh the bottom silys are robs to 😀 😀 😀

  • Peter Normington

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    November 14, 2008 at 10:58 pm

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