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  • A bit of a fixing problem

    Posted by Sticky on September 12, 2002 at 5:24 am

    After more than 9 months (yes you read correctly) of designs, revisions, re-designs, and so on, including 3 name changes, my most awkward customer EVER has finally (fingers crossed) settled on a design for his new restaurant.

    The problem is this…

    This guy is a tad fussy (you may have guessed already) and as he was looking through my Perspex swatches he picked out the exact colour he wants his new flat cut lettering. Nothing wrong with that as such, but it’s a transparent orange.

    How the hell do I fix these letters to the sign board?

    Conventional locators would be visible through the letters, and look a right old mess. Is there some method or fixing specifically designed for jobs like this? Or is it a case of back to the drawing board (again).

    I thought about fixing all lettering to a sheet of clear, and then mounting this with those nice stainless or chrome bolts, but he doesn’t want that, just the letters ‘floating’ in front of the backboard.

    Help!!

    Andy

    Martin Pearson replied 19 years, 11 months ago 5 Members · 5 Replies
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  • Phill Fenton

    Member
    September 12, 2002 at 7:54 am

    I get my locators from SMP (sign makers products) – The plug that is glued onto the letters is made from a clear plastic material (which may help). The socket which is attached to the fascia is a white plastic though – so this part may still be seen.

    Have you tried asking your customer how he thinks the letters should be attached? Maybe he needs to accept that some things are just not possible. On the other hand – he may have his own vision of how the letters should be fixed and assumes you think the same.

  • Mike Brown

    Member
    September 12, 2002 at 8:09 am

    Very true Phill – wise words!

    Not my forte, but perhaps clear perspex round dowel(s) could be used as permanent posts – like little columns behind glued with clear adhesive…I still think you might see them as a slight ghost/shadow?…

    Maybe if you had the letters made with returns (like a biscuit tin without the lid type of thing) so eash letter has a face and sides – the rear edge of which could then be glued to the face…

    mmm? – Paul Davenport could probably help more with this?…

    If I think of anything else today – I’ll post…

  • Sticky

    Member
    September 12, 2002 at 11:34 am

    I thought about using acrylic rods glued to each letter, and this looks like it might be the only way to go.

    Returns are out of the question, it’s the type of pespex that has a flourescent glow at the cut edges, and this is the effect the customer wants. I did ask his opinion as to how he thought they should be fixed, and he said he’d be happy with the anodised wall mounted support fixings… until I quoted him a price.

    Might be time to get rid of him (:)

    Andy

  • Paul Davenport

    Member
    September 15, 2002 at 8:35 pm

    Bloody hell this is a hard one…..

    Right, you can use returns, just bevell the face edge and flame polish

    fix to a clear back and there you go

    i wouldent rely on fixing them with acrylic dowels, i can guarante it wouldent be long before there on the floor,if you post the design i couls probably tell you a suitable way of doing things

    cherio

  • Martin Pearson

    Member
    September 15, 2002 at 10:45 pm

    Being new to the industry I am no expert but I would have thought that even if you use clear rod you will be able to see where the dowels are located unless you use an optically clear adhesive, and most of these are not suitable for acrylic or external use.