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What materials to use to cover front of a building???
Posted by David Stevenson on February 2, 2021 at 5:23 pmHi, We’ve been asked to quote for a job regarding fitting a large mural to the front of a building. The building in the centre is to be covered completely with the others on the left & right covered at the upper part where the pitch is. Can anyone offer any ideas as to the best way to do this? There’s been suggestions of putting on batons and screwing / gluing dibond sheets to these, getting huge banners made and fitting them, or having the whole front plastered and applying a vinyl like Roughmark. Just trying to get our heads round which would be best. Any advice very much appreciated.
Many Thanks,
Davy
David Stevenson replied 3 years, 11 months ago 6 Members · 16 Replies -
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Is this a plastered brick wall David?
If the wall is sound enough, i would consider using one of the banner tension extrusions from spirit-flex. I have used their stuff periodically over the years on certain jobs. a couple being similar type thing you have shown.
basically its an aluminium channel that you screw around the perimetre of the building or sign, truck or whatever. then fit banner by chapping in a plastic face clip the full peritmetre.
You can see in one of the pictures, a similar type building done, as you are looking to do.
This guy in the video makes it look harder than it actually is. 😀
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While the plaster is flaking a bit in places the wall behind it’s super solid. Tried hammering a masonry nail into it and bent the nail!!! That banner system looks a good job. The building doors are changing slightly from what they are now but I can see that working nicely. Thanks
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This guy in the video makes it look harder than it actually is.
This guy has to be on a day rate. If he worked for me, we’d be having the ‘this isn’t working out’ conversation.
Heard about this system but never used it. How does the PVC stand up over time, some sort of flexible varnish? -
Difficult to tell Kevin because I’ve never had to take one back down, to see if they become brittle or whatever.
However, there is one we did not too far from me and I pass it every once in a while, and it looks as good as the day it went up. I think that’s been up about 4 years now.I know some companies use them and periodically change the banner. but as I said, never needed to. But I think if you had a large sign and yanking out the plastic after a couple of years it would twist or warp in some fashion.
The one key thing I would say in this system working is that it is fitted to a solid surface. the only reason I say that is you hammer in the plastic and as much as it goes in without any real effort if the surface has any give in it, it completely absorbs the blow from the hammer which prevents the face plastic from snapping into place quickly and easily. it does still go in but i don’t like banging at it, prefer to just chap it in as I go along.I was surprised how well it created an even tension. I prefer flex face systems for signs, but the spirit-flex did the trick nicely for what it was needed for.
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Latex, but did a couple of years back using our solvent machines at the time. no issues.
do you mean UV colour stability Kev?
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I do Rob, always treated banner as very short term signage. Used a product called frog juice from Victory design years ago for a tensioned banner. Took days to dry but the print lasted for years. Just wondering if anyone tries to extend the life of pvc prints
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To answer your question, I don’t treat Banners as long-term either mate.
Like you, I think if the intention was to have it long term I would treat the prints as you have done with a liquid laminate/coating.
My view on using one of these tension frames is that they will get changed maybe every 12 months. but I think that is often a customer’s intention but seldom get around to it.That said, I have some BIG banners for customers up around the Glasgow and surrounding areas and the colour stability is spot-on. been up a couple of years and south-facing. (no frame though)
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Tricky one but the last option is cladding it in DIBOND. With everything that went on regarding fire risks is not a good option, although the building looks like a fire risk already!.
Last thing you want is someone getting on their high horse and getting you to take it all down
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If going down the cladding route, there is the option of DiBond FR.
DIBOND FR aluminium composite sheets have the fire classification “fire retardant” because of their mineral core.
No horses need to be harmed.
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sorry to wonder off topic, I used to use loads of Frog Juice pre printer days, they did various colours as well as clear so you could fade colours with the aerosols, I even used to rag roll vinyl with the it.
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Rag rolling & bag graining was on week 3 of my apprenticeship back in the dark ages. My old gaffer used to swear by it, & at it. A lot
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Well no matter what we say customer is insistent that we install DiBond panels to the front of the building. Despite showing them several building covered with huge banners they believe banners to be a temporary solution. So out with the battens we go to try and level it out a bit.
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The banner system was slightly more expensive than the dibond but we were going to take the hit for what we believe to be a better and more professional product. No changing the customers mind. On a brighter note their getting the batons fitted so all we’ve to do it prepare and screw 27 panels to them.
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