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Vinyl creasing feeding into printer
Hi all. Wondering if anyone has seen this before.
I have an HP L26500. For no apparent reason, the vinyl feeding into the printer has started to crease. At first, I thought it was to do with temperatures (as my the people I rent the unit from have now issued a restriction on me heating the unit up – a separate issue I’m dealing with).
However, it does this on different rolls. So I just tried manually feeding it through the printer, without actually printing. So no curing/drying heat applied, and it still appears to do it.
Literally, was printing for months without any issues and then since the first time it did it, it’s been doing it ever since.
I’m just managing by selectively placing the print image in the middle of the roll and crossing my fingers. But huge amounts of vinyl and ink being wasted.
Pics attached.
Thanks in advance,
Pete J.
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wow, I’ve had similar on thick 3M reflective wrap films coming off a tight wound roll but nothing to this extent. possibly to do with the extra thick material snaking back on itself before feeding into the printer, and a combination of the air release liner.
I got around it by sitting the roll on some release line on the loading tray and loading from there – dramatically reducing the initial backward curve back into the machine.What material is it?
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It looks like it’s de-laminating from the release liner. This can happen on ecomomy vinyl in very cold weather.
As Hugh says, it can also happen on thicker media. -
Only seen this once before on the last 5 mts of a 3M ij180 roll, was a defective batch in the end
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Hearts broke at the minute with Oracal 3620 clear. Constantly lifting off the liner and causing grief
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Thanks to Jamie and Hugh for ideas.
I think Jamie is on the right track. The vinyl is Ritrama RiJet 100. It’s not a top end vinyl, but this is what I print all of my low price £1-2 stickers on.
I’ve just put in a higher grade roll of vinyl and halfway through the print job, there appear to be no problems.
Been having a load of issues with my current landlords. Seemed like a good deal when I moved here last August. The rent was a one off payment that included VAT and utilities. They have now changed that and will now charge VAT (a 20% increase) and they have now fitted meters and said I have to pay electric bills on top of that. And to top it all, they have now said that because of their insurance, I can no longer have heating in the unit.
Which is now apparently affecting my ability to print onto certain media.
Thanks for the suggestions that made me try other things I never thought of. It’s worked and I can now try and catch up with everything.
EDIT: somehow (poltergeist I think) the heaters turned on last night and when I got in this morning, the unit was warm, and lo, the vinyl printed without issues. That was lucky.
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quote Peter Johnson:Been having a load of issues with my current landlords. Seemed like a good deal when I moved here last August. The rent was a one off payment that included VAT and utilities. They have now changed that and will now charge VAT (a 20% increase) and they have now fitted meters and said I have to pay electric bills on top of that. And to top it all, they have now said that because of their insurance, I can no longer have heating in the unit.
Which is now apparently affecting my ability to print onto certain media.
Thanks for the suggestions that made me try other things I never thought of. It’s worked and I can now try and catch up with everything.
EDIT: somehow (poltergeist I think) the heaters turned on last night and when I got in this morning, the unit was warm, and lo, the vinyl printed without issues. That was lucky.
I take it that this is the kind of landlord that doesn’t give you a written contract?! I think he needs to talk to his insurance company, you have to be able to heat your building in order to carry out your work, an electric heat gun is not a naked flame or blow torch, I had awful trouble with one insurer over what ‘working with heat’ meant in my game!! Either way, they can’t stop you now you’re in and you need to keep a sensible temperature. Surely you could use some oil radiators or something similar? Not ideal but better than nothing… time to look elsewhere I think.
PS, Most rent is not subjected to VAT, I’d question your landlord as to why he now feels he must charge you VAT.
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Both my current & previous landlords aren’t vat registered so units aren’t vat liable but if the premises are owned by vat registered companies, vat is applicable but they must provide you with a legitimate vat invoice. Not the best situation to be in if you aren’t vat registered yourself. Even if you aren’t you will still get tax relief on the rent but will be done annually rather than quarterly. Heating is a problem for us here too, insurance aren’t keen on naked flame so my space heater isn’t popular but if it affected my machines it’s being fired up whether they like it or not
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They ARE VAT registered and I believe that if you are, it is a legal requirement that you charge VAT on everything you provide. My rent was monthly and was supposed to be inclusive of VAT and utilities.
But I think that they made some sort of accounting mistakes with the initial renting of nearly all of their business units and were telling us they were inclusive, but then having to pay VAT on that price themselves. So now, they have just told everyone that VAT now has to be added. On top of that, the main electric fuse on one phase blew on 2 consecutive days during the cold weather and this made them start looking at the electric supply/usage. This is when the meters and heating bans took place. They were even frowning at me when I was boiling a kettle for a brew.
I already know of 2 other businesses located here that are now moving out.
As for me, I sign the lease papers on a new premises today, or tomorrow and will be moving out before the end of the month. So that’s 3 businesses they’ve lost.
What annoys me the most (and I’m still not too sure if they can do it) is the fact that my original rent agreement included VAT and utilities. I had already paid up, in advance, till the end of March. But they are now trying to charge me for the electric which I feel I have already paid for. The new rent charges don’t start until the 1st April.
In fact, they sent me an email on Weds 21/02 telling me that I had to start paying for electric from the previous day, Tues 20/02.
I’m so angry I could throw the phone down.
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If you have an agreement in writing, saying incl VAT, don’t pay anymore.
Unless you have a rent review in the agreement.
Any judge should look at your agreement, see it’s inc VAT, and throw it out. Sounds like the landlord has tried to do it on the cheap.
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I agree, just reply to the demand with a copy of your agreement & let them whistle, boil as many kettles as you can. If this was a clerical error made on your part, you would pay for it, certainly not down to you so tough luck, if you can’t have heating, I think you’re due money back
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