Trying anything new next year?

[Stephen Ingham]

me too, wrapping is the way forward

Dewi, any ideas where you are doing the course?? Graffityp for example??

maybe there’s a member of the boards out there that does wrapping and could organise some type of training course.

we are considering offering tinting courses, they are very exclusive and very expensive, there should be another way.

Happy new year to all

stephen

[Bill Dewison]

Thats the one I’m planning on, same as you, think its the way forward in some respects, but I want to be able to transfer the ideas I have for vehicles onto the vehicles and I think the only way that will be possible is to get some professional advice and training. Granted, practising techniques I’ve already been shown by Robert and things I’ve learnt from here will carry me a certain way along, but specific training will just add to it hopefully.

Not expecting to be a vehicle wrapper just from a course, but it’ll be good to learn some new skills and have a play on the cars of anyone who’s daft enough, oh I mean kind enough to let me 😀

Cheers, Dewi

[Stephen Ingham]

experience is the thing that you can’t buy

as well as running a sign company i run a training company that offers industrial and construction plant training and the main purpose of the training is to give the necessary guidance to be able to operate the machinary safely, experience is something that comes with time and unfortunetly you can’t buy that.

i really do fancy going on a course to wrap, but that only points you in the right direction, like you said dewi, you then need to find some willing people to practice on

mind you we still need to buy a printer yet too

a late pressie from santa perhaps!!

cheers
stephen

[Bill Dewison]

Thing is with the print, you can always find someone who is willing to provide you with a good price, especially here. I’m not overly worried about that side of things, as I’d like to practise with just plain vinyl to begin with and move onto printed as I go along. I know it sounds a bit mad, but just as with making signs, I started doing things one way and learned very quickly I was slow and making mistakes. By adopting different techniques (most of which learnt from here) and lots of practise, I rarely think that much now about how to apply, I’m more often than not thinking about the next layer that needs to go on or what time the sign has to be delivered 😀

I think alot of ppl would like to learn wrapping though as it is popular and more and more customers are becoming aware of it. But I also think there’s a possibility that it could be like other techniques or skills, and ppl will wrap a vehicle, not because its of any benefit to the customer, but because they can. Humble opinion, it has its uses, but I don’t think it has a use for every single vehicle you do. As I say, I design something for a vehicle, but then consider how difficult it will be to fit and often change the design to suit the fitting. I’d just like to be able to have the skill set to apply anything I choose to design 😀

I’m hogging a thread again, sorry 😳 😳 What was the question again?

Cheers, Dewi

[Dave Bruce]

Just got an embroidery machine, so I am hoping to tap into the school uniform stuff. I already do heated vinyl stuff but a few customers have asked for embroidery instead so I got old of an old Melco.

Should be fun.

Dave

[Jill Marie Welsh]

Dave, you will look so cute in a school uniform!
😉
I am going to try and make more custom dimensional and gilded pieces.
I want to strut my stuff.
I am also going to try living in sin with a Canadian.
Love….Jill

[Andrew Bennett]

Whose the honey in jills new avatar then?

[Jill Marie Welsh]

That’s me!
My daughter took it last year.
Amazing what a Bettie Page wig and some black & white film can do.
Maybe I’ll get into boudoir photography.
Love….Jill

[Peter Normington]

Dewi, before you and other spend your cash on a wrapping course, Take a look at this, its not as easy as you think 🙂
http://www.flowgo.com/funpages/view.cfm/9256

Peter

[Stephen Ingham]

nice one peter!!

i think your right, i can’t even think that fast never mind talk that fast!!

on the note of the wrapping course, can we not negotiate a good rate through the boards with graffityp?

cheers
stephen

[Robert Lambie]

quote ste68blue:

nice one peter!!

i think your right, i can’t even think that fast never mind talk that fast!!

on the note of the wrapping course, can we not negotiate a good rate through the boards with graffityp?

cheers
stephen

i think it would depend on the amount wanting to go on the course mate.
if there was a good few of us it would put us in a better position to ask.
having said that, these courses are popular. & classes are not big. so not only would we need a fair amount of us, we would also need to do it around the same time.
i dont think ther is any harm in me asking, but its better if we confirmed how amny wanted to attend and roughly when?
if anyone is interested and would like to put their name forward let me know, uksigngroup@hotmail.com remember give me full details and your site username.

in 2005 i plan attending as many different suppliers wrapping courses as i can. i can wrap, and do, but you can never have too much experience, im self taught so i bet there is lots of tips that i dont know.

[Andrew Bennett]

quote Jillbeans:

That’s me!
My daughter took it last year.
Amazing what a Bettie Page wig and some black & white film can do.
Maybe I’ll get into boudoir photography.
Love….Jill

The left side has been badly cropped 😀

[Andrew Bennett]

And I would LOVE to see the rest of it Jill 😉

How does one get to pm by the way?

[Bill Dewison]

Oh dear, looks like you have another potential stalker Jill 😮 Can I retire my position now then? :lol1:

Cheers, Dewi

[Andrew Bennett]

No way dewi, you hold the crown 😀

[Jill Marie Welsh]

Dewi,
You will always be my favorite stalker.
Andy, folks would be mad if I posted the rest of that pic publicly.
Love….jill

[Ramj]

I’m going to try a variation on vehicle-wrapping (oooh, hyphen) that I’ve invented

~~Gangsta-Wrapping~~

Where I wrap a popular rapper using cast vinyl,.

I’ll obviously start off on someone small like Ja Rule and work my way up to something bigger, like 50-cent ( about 21.7p ) or Jay-Z.

but seriously, vehicle wrap looks the way to go, and I’ve got a feeling if you can wrap something that has as much reccesses and stuff as a van, you can apply vinyl to anything. so if you guys find any good courses, give me a yell.

[Robert Lambie]

if you want to wrap mate, go for it… but ask yourself this question…

what percenatge of vinyl application do you do dry & wet?

[Ramj]

Mostly dry, wet only when overlaying large areas and for really precise layering etc. and maybe for the odd vinyl-on-vinyl Job, just to be extra sure.

The main problem I have is nerves, I get a large peice of vinyl, and everything goes to pot usually, I just need practice. The times when I haven’t been nervous the work I produce has been fine, but when I think about it too much, I get it wrong.

After seeing some of your videos/threads, I have more confidence and much more knowledge.

🙂

[Robert Lambie]

cheers mate..
when it comes down to it, confidense plays a big part and only practice and time will better that.

wet app is fine of you struggle with certain jobs/sizes of vinyl. do whats easiest for you at the end of the day…

on the other hand, if your wanting to become serious about wrapping, ide take every offcut of vinyl possible and play around with it on “painted metal” just a bit of alluminium or something and strip and re-do it time and time again.
wet application & vehicle wraps dont mix, so quicker you can get away from wet app the better.
there is a simple tecnique when it comes to dry app… use the squeegee in a cutting action, not regimental drags/pushes that wet application requires… (big-g has a saying which is right) something like 😕 “dont put the vinyl down unless the squeegee puts it ther” i think… whatever it was hes right. 😉
always have an immaculate surface before applying.

do you use/have a felt squeegee?

[Ramj]

I have used a felt squeegee yes, because I work with a few other people, it usually goes wandering (you’d think I’d get my own really wouldn’t you 🙄 )

I find that after a while the one I use just bends and I can’t get enough pressure. in comparison the hard squeegees I’ve used have always been too hard and I’ve been left alone to work out my own method of using them. ie, using them in conjunction with app. tape

thanks for the cutting stroke thing,I noticed alot on these forums too.
I haven’t really been left alone on jobs that require too much dry stuff, but I have noticed that using a wet method of squeegeeing is evil.

As for vehicle wrap ,my friend has one of those little mini-motorbike things (so cute), so I was going to start practicing on that, and try and find an old panel or two. I’d love to go on a course though or something, just to get to grips with the method from the people who know. (your step by step on that tanning van was very helpful).

I have some of the knowledge and a small amount of skill, I just need the practice and the means now and to get a wriggle on.

[Robert Lambie]

i have more video demos coming mate.. hopefully many more. with better info and the like.. so im sure they will help you more.. much more and others too.. i WILL be dedicating much more time to demos in january feb… we are basicaly working on new areas of site in the background just now.

[Ramj]

oh, that reminds me (sorry for being slightly off topic)

but where would I post comments about the site, I know it’s continuously updated, but there are some bits that have errors etc.

is there a place I can leave feedback?

plus, I’ll be waiting with anticipation at the thought of new videos, I love broadband!. (hot) (hot) (hot)

[Robert Lambie]

excellent mate…
just start a new post.. show links if you can to the errors… we are working on the site since mnoving to dedicated server so brill if ther is errors we missed. cheers mate.. 😉

[Stephen Ingham]

Hi Peeps, back on the subject of wrapping courses;

just had an email reply from Graffityp with prices a 3 day course held in slough is £1230.00 + vat

Pity its not a little closer to Yorkshire, you have to consider adding diggs as well.

Robert, any news on discounts for board members yet??

cheers
stephen

[Ramj]

That’s about right (the price for the course) considering the materials you’ll be using and teaching. I’ll definately be doing a course this year, just need to save now 😀

[Peter Normington]

The price of the course roughly equates to an actual wrap I would imagine.
So here is a more cost effective alternative, get your own van done by a reputable firm and watch them do it, then the first couple of wraps you get for yourself, on the back of your van being done, sub it out to the same firm, again watch them do it, after which you should be able to do it yourself. Does this sound to naive? Could you come to an arrangement with a firm that does wraps to do it in this way and teach you at the same time?
Peter

[Stephen Ingham]

peter, i don’t know any local firms that do wraps!!

i would also say that trial and error method is not always the way: when i first started tinting i went out and bought a roll of film and had a bash, after 4 attempts at doing an astra back window and it not getting any better if not worse i decided to seek proper help.

myself and a colleague then attended a course in gatwick at a bona fidy window tinting firm, working with tinters for a number of days, here we picked up the necessary hints and tips whilst at the same time gained some valuable hands on experience.

the only reason they run these courses were because we are no threat to them as a competitor, i would say that local firms would not veiw it in the same way.

cheers
stephen

[Robert Lambie]

the main issue there would be you must have someone standing over “you” telling you where you are going wrong & explaining how to correct it.
watching someone will help you heaps…. but they must be taking you by the hand and explaining each step at a time.

the thing about about finding a reputable wrapper is actually finding one. :lol1:
3 days is maybe a good lenght of time to be taught, but only doing the wraps yourself time and time again will make you any good.

your method of learning is a probably a good way of doing it, but thats “if” they allow you to stand over them asking this and that.
you will also need to watch them wrap a fair amount.

i plan on going on the course, and many others like it this year. i want my certificates from every supplier i can get them from & then i can say… im an approved wrapper. 😀

[Jill Marie Welsh]

I am going to become a nudist.
I am going to start smoking Lucky Strikes.
I plan on going glo-bowling every Friday night.
I have given up shaving my legs and armpits.
I will wrap vehicles with Saran Wrap and duct tape.
Lastly, I have taken up Bungee jumping.
It’s gonna be an interesting year!
Love….Jill 😉

[Peter Normington]

Of course jill we will insist on seeing the photographic evidence of all of the above 😀
Peter

[Stephen Ingham]

robert, i agree.

watching someone is very useful, however, you can’t beat hands on experience.

also as you said would they want you to watch and would they want to teach you to do something they can and you can’t? risking their business potential.

consider; a man comes in off the street and asks if he can watch you make a sign, would you allow him?? NO!!

robert, have you had any more thoughts of trying to negotiate a good price for board members for these courses??

cheers
stephen

[Robert Lambie]

yes i have mate… ill put a list together of those wanting to go, but we willl need good few heads. so if anyone is interested in going let me know…

admin@uksignboards.com

[Ramj]

I agree with the “practice makes perfect”,

but I’m very methodological, I need to know every step and the “theory” behind it all before lifting a finger.

[Rebecca]

Hi all

I sent one of my lads on the avery wrapping course at their head office in Holland for a two day course, it was cheaper than courses in the Uk, even taking into account flights and accomodation.

Rebecca

[Stephen Ingham]

rebecca, have you got any details of the course and contact details??

cheers
stephen

[Andrew Bennett]

quote Jillbeans:

I am going to become a nudist.

I have given up shaving my legs and armpits.

Love….Jill 😉

1-yes
2-no
😀

[Rebecca]

Hi Stephen

I havent been into work this week much I will sort some details for you early next week.

Rebecca

[Robert Scullion]

Jill

How do you blow a glo ?

Bob (<(

[Robert Scullion]

Got that wrong, didn’t I

My problem is I can read reading, I can’t read writing ( glo-bowling )

Bob 😳

[Jill Marie Welsh]

ummmm…… dunno if you have it crost the pond…..but
Glo- Bowling is just that,
bowling with a neon ball and icky neon shoes,
under a black light and glitter ball
with Disco blaring in the background.
Big thrills for the local yokels on a Friday night,
and it’s BYOB too.
Love…..jill