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  • Transport of Dangerous Goods (Ink)

    Posted by John Malone on January 16, 2014 at 4:14 pm

    I’m trying to buy some ink from a company in Coventry. They won’t send it by courier because they can’t get insurance, but are happy for me to arrange my own courier, which I have done before, but I’m having a big headache with it this time.

    All the courier companies I’ve looked at say that they won’t accept liquids (at all, never mind ink, or acid or petrol).

    So how do the likes of Colour Mill or Digprint-Supplies send their ink out?

    This is Interparcels list:
    http://www.interparcel.com/help/prohibi … -items.php

    It looks like they base their restrictions on IATA guidelines, but IATA is Air Transport!

    I could be driving up to Coventry to get the stuff. (From Bristol) 🙄

    Stuart Taylor replied 10 years, 3 months ago 7 Members · 12 Replies
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  • Chris Wool

    Member
    January 16, 2014 at 7:01 pm

    101 company’s selling inks what’s special about this order

  • John Malone

    Member
    January 16, 2014 at 10:43 pm
    quote Chris Wool:

    101 company’s selling inks what’s special about this order

    There’s nothing special about this order. Did you look at the link? This is a typical example of courier company prohibitions.

    The question I asked was how do the companies that sell ink manage to send it?

  • Jamie Wood

    Member
    January 17, 2014 at 10:51 am

    Our ink is all delivered by courier – City Link or TNT, so I can’t see the problem.
    Probably best to use a different courier.

  • John Thomson

    Member
    January 17, 2014 at 12:34 pm

    Never had any issues………DHL deliver mine by air from China in 4 working days to my door.

    John

  • John Malone

    Member
    January 17, 2014 at 2:19 pm

    I have never had a problem when buying from someone else who organises the transport.

    I emailed TNT to ask if ink was acceptable and got a reply which said , in part:

    If the items you are wishing to have delivered are hazardous the reason why companies may not be able to assist you may because they do not have a service where the staff are trained to handle such goods
    I am very sorry TNT Direct could not assist you on this occasion.

    Interparcel said this:
    Thank you for your email,
    In regards to your query unfortunately we do not accept liquids to be sent on our services
    If you have any further queries please do not hesitate to contact me.

    Interparcel act as agents for both City Link & TNT, amongst others.

    So, does this mean that people sending ink by courier are ignoring the regulations and risking prosecution?

    Since starting this thread I’ve found a bit more information, courtesy of TNT:
    http://www.tnt.com/express/en_gb/site/h … olicy.html

    If ink is category 4 then there is no problem, though the people at TNT answering the email don’t seem to know that, but you can’t book them through Interparcel!

  • Stafford Cox

    Member
    January 17, 2014 at 2:22 pm

    When I was working for an ink supplier we used TNT for years!! My understanding was that as long as we were able to supply the MSDS’s for each ink then it should be fine. Maybe things have changed since….

    Stafford

  • Jamie Wood

    Member
    January 17, 2014 at 2:32 pm

    What ink are you trying to buy? Is it Large Format Cartridges? As far as I am aware,
    they do not fall under Dangerous Goods. There are no labels like the ones shown on
    any of our Mimaki carts.

  • John Malone

    Member
    January 17, 2014 at 4:13 pm
    quote Jamie Wood:

    What ink are you trying to buy? Is it Large Format Cartridges? As far as I am aware,
    they do not fall under Dangerous Goods. There are no labels like the ones shown on
    any of our Mimaki carts.

    Jamie,

    It’s 1 litre bottles of Eco Solvent Ink for a Mimaki JV3.

    I’ve used them before and had no problem.

  • Graeme Dingwall

    Member
    January 17, 2014 at 7:20 pm

    If you have the MSDS sheet check the transport information, section 12 or 14 can’t remember it will tell you if it’s classed as dangerous and the UN number etc i would think it would fall under limited qauntitys anyway but it will say on the MSDS

    Graeme

  • John Malone

    Member
    January 17, 2014 at 7:44 pm
    quote Graeme Dingwall:

    If you have the MSDS sheet check the transport information, section 12 or 14 can’t remember it will tell you if it’s classed as dangerous and the UN number etc i would think it would fall under limited qauntitys anyway but it will say on the MSDS

    Graeme

    Graeme,
    Interesting point. Thanks for the tip. Here’s what it says (This is Mimaki’s MSDS as published on Digiprint-Supplies web site):

    Material Safety Data Sheets
    Product Name: SS2 ink Cyan
    MSDS No. 031-33S03CC
    First issue: 2009/12/08
    Revised: 2012/01/17
    Page 8 of 9
    CONSIDERED A HAZARDOUS SUBSTANCE ACCORDING TO OSHA 29 CFR 1910.1200.
    Do not dump this product into sewers, on the ground or into any body of water.

    Check a thing without a leak in a container.
    Perform prevention of collapse of cargo surely.

    (yes, it really does say that)

    14. Transport Information
    Us Department of Transportation (DOT) Hazardous Materials : Not Applicable
    Sea Transport (IMDG)Class : No classification assigned.
    Packing Group (PG) : –
    UN Number : –
    Proper Shipping Name : –
    Marine Pollutant : –
    Air Transport (ICAO/IATA)
    Class : No classification assigned.
    Packing Group(PG) : –
    UN Number : –
    Proper Shipping Name : –

    And that’s it. It’s hazardous but doesn’t have a hazardous material reference or a UN number.

    It doesn’t help with Interparcel, though as they won’t even carry water.

    Cheers

    John

  • Graeme Dingwall

    Member
    January 17, 2014 at 8:07 pm

    Well clearly states it’s not hazardous no UN number etc

    Think it’s time to get a new carrier :lol1:

    Graeme

  • Stuart Taylor

    Member
    January 20, 2014 at 11:11 am

    Strange One this

    Surely this is the responsibility of the ink supplier in Coventry you are trying to purchase from ?? This is not the problem of either the carrier or for you to solve yourself.

    We supply 00000’s of ink cartridges per year by carrier (not Mimaki SS2 so not touting for any business here).

    We normally use TNT …. some of the ink types (Latex for example) we supply are classed as non hazardous and have zero restriction (even though they are liquid) and even mild solvent inks or UV inks in many cases are classed as non hazardous.

    A handful of specialist inks we supply are classed as hazardous and have a UN number … we as the supplier are responsible for this – we simply fill out shipping forms including UN number for the carrier and the carrier then can ship the ink. With the latter there is a consignment limit that the carrier can handle in one consignment (approx 5 litres from memory but the supplier of the ink should check this with the carrier)

    The ink supplier should be used to providing this information for any carrier and the supplier should be up to date with any product they are supplying. The ink manufacturer would supply the ink supplier with the relevent MSDS information and any UN numbers.

    If your supplier can’t help I would suggest finding an official supplier of Mimaki inks that can as this should not be an issue.

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