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those great little dancing ants!
ok, we had a new vp540i installed last week/this week(their still installing it!) and i’ve been using a gerber edge fx for the past 4-5 years with omega software.
what i want to do, and please send me in the direction of any links that will help(i’ve been looking at past posts for the last hour by the way) is this>
i have created a file in omega, i want to put it in illistrator and then rip it in versaworks. now, i have never used illistrator before, which doesn’t help! i know you need to create a cut contor line in illistrator and assign it a special colour, which i have etc. i save the file in omega as an .eps, i open it up in illistrator, assign the new cutcontor line/colour in illistrator save this as an illistrator .eps file, put it in versaworks, but, i don’t get those good old dancing ants!!! any thoughts as to what i’m doing wrong? -
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What have you called the ‘colour’.
You NEED to get it exactly right. eg. CutPath (not cutpath or Cut Path or whatever it is in A.I.
Then the ants should dance for you….
If not – check line thickness – should be ‘hairline’.
i don’t use versaworks – but are the tabs ticked for process cut lines?
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hi david, ahhh..my tech told me the other day(thats how i know about the change to the cutpath/color) to call it Cutcontor i take it then he was wrong?? i changed the line thickness to what he told me to before..0.25pts i’ll go see if me changing the name will work
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just tried renaming the cut line to CutPath, the line is on 0.25pts so the smallest it will go, have the cutpath highlighted and when you apply the colour stroke even upto 100 so you can see it clearly it has the colour assigned to the cut path, so it looks like its thier, i save it as an ai.eps, put it into versaworks, i bringup the cut only option to make sure the ants are their….nada, nowt, nothing!!
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The Colour needs to be a SPOT colour. If its a Process Colour it wont work.
It doesn’t matter what thickness you make it.
Only that its a SPOT colour named CutContour.
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thanks jason, i’ll try that in the morning…kinda frustrating trying to learn new software when you’ve been using different software for the past 4-5 years! i’ll get their in the end though…just need to get the basics sorted out and then i can take it from their.
thanks again
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If your stuck email me jason@mediapoint.com.au and I will send you the Roland Versaworks swatch you drop into your swatches folder to ensure you have everything right.
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If you have transparencies in the design, you will have to rasterize it. Otherwise the marching ants wont show.
Jan
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quote Jason Xuereb:The Colour needs to be a SPOT colour. If its a Process Colour it wont work.
It doesn’t matter what thickness you make it.
Only that its a SPOT colour named CutContour.
Forgot what it was in Versa. CutContour (why I said "eg. CutPath as i use wasatch)
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thanks guys, will try again in a moment..see if i can’t get those ants a marching!
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Yes transparencies must be flattened and also you must make sure it’s saved as an EPS Tiff – 8 bit colour file.
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Warren,
stoopid Q
what does flatten mean?Peter
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Take the layers off to ‘flatten’ the image to one image?
Matt
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hmmm..well….no luck! i have no idea why i can’t do this!!!!!!!!!!! all it is, is a simple ying yang 2 colour circle, and all i want to do is put a cut line on it so the roland will cut it!!!!!!!! it can’t be that hard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i have created it in omega, put it in AI so i can apply this cutline, and i just can’t get the little ants up in versaworks. i’ve tried the suggestions which have been said in the post…thanks guys by the way…much appreciated! i know i’m going to be thinking in a weeks time that’s it easy but right now…its driving me insane!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😮 -
Matt b can you show us what you are trying to do ? maybe easier
Lynn
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hey lynn, what like post up a pic you mean???? basically in a nut shell, i have already created the image but in omega, omega has a cutline on it so i can print on my gerber..however the image is too big to print on the gerber in one go without tiling it, and since we just got our roland vp540i installed i wanted to give it a go on that. so, i have got hold of AI and put it in their. i have created the cut contour with spot colour so versaworks can see it, but when i save it as an AI.eps file and put it in versaworks…..no dancing ants….and yes i have the cut showing so………really frustrating!!
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quote Peter Normington:Warren,
stoopid Q
what does flatten mean?Peter
Sort of what Matty said but not exactly, as I understand it with a transparency you can obviously see what’s behind the object as it’s "transparent" to what degree the transparency is doesn’t matter but if not 100% solid then it’s "transparent". Different software’s and Rips read things differently so it picks up any transparencies as a potential compatibility issue. By flattening the transparency it merges the transparent object with the object below to create a new single object which looks like the 2 objects with the transparent object therefore removing the transparency object that causes issues.
clear as mud right 😉 :lol1:
Flattening or merging layers will put all layers (presuming your artwork is made up in layers) onto one single layer losing all "layer" memory.
Rasterising image will convert your vector image in to a bitmap image.
Cheers
Warren
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ok….i think!! hehe!! yeah, i understand the transparency etc… i did try merging but still didn’t get what i needed in the end. i’m probably doing 1 thing wrong or over looking something real stupid!! kinda frustrating trying out new software and not really understanding it! my tech said he’d show me but he didn’t show up today..so was trying to do it myself
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I GOT DANCING ANTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😛 thanks to all the help, a mixture of all the advice got me those dancing ants!!!! now……will i remember what i did tomorrow??!?!!?! took me long enough so i hope so! thanks all, great advice as normal.
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i can’t post images here for some reason..anyways, i have my ying yang symbol, real simple……..now its orange/white with a black boarder. i just ripped it in versaworks, got my dancing ants(at last!) and went to print…………now, it looked fine in versaworks, image came up etc, all good, however started to print and all it printed was the black boarder!! no orange bits! thought i was away and fine since i got my dancing ants..now the darn thing isn’t printing the complete colour image!! 🙄
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