Signs, Before and After.

[Daniel Evans]

Nice.

What material did they originally use? I thought it was a banner but each section has joins and I can’t work out why there bubbles in the substrate.

I take it that your sign is a powder coated Matt aluminium tray with vinyl?

Good work.

[Colin Bland]

Theirs was 3mm foamex glued to the brickwork the bubbles are where the sun has plyed on the foamex and caused the bubbles – it annoys me that people produce this kind of work and get paid for it.

[Robert Lambie]

Unfortunately this happens daily across the world in any industry, but yes, very much so in the Sign, Print and Wrapping Industry we are all part of.

We need to "educate" the customer on quality over price these days when trying to win work because the uneducated Sign, Print or Wrap companies can do nothing else other than sell on price alone, simply because thats as far as their own knowledge goes.
If they knew better, they would do better… some are an exception to that rule though. :lol1:

It is always good to see customers come back after companies like this lure them away on the promise of "Budget Quality", there is no such thing of course and very soon the product fails and the service they provide wasnt there in the first place.

[David Hammond]

That is shocking!

Glueing 3mm foampvc to brick wall, without screws or anything else. Even the vinyl is peeling!

I would be interested to know how much they paid for the first sign.

Rob’s right it’s difficult to educate some customers, and some just look at price whilst others will take onboard what your saying.

[Colin Bland]

I try and educate clients where possible and will usually give them a good quality budget alternative to the folded tray type sign, but there comes a point where clients just look at cost unfortunately.
We do find this happening more often nowdays which I think devalues our profession.
Anyone with a plotter a garage and a set of ladders is a signmaker it seems

[Unknown Member]

Excellent job as always Colin!

Was this a local sign maker close to us Colin? Would love to know who it was mate?

[Dan Smith]

Brilliant job and a great improvement! The customer must be over the moon about it all! Those last signs looked horrific!

I just wish customers would realise that cheaper isn’t always better

[Fabrice Menard]

hello,

with what did you replace the original foamex?

[Jon Marshall]

Wow. One of the worst sign jobs I’ve ever seen…and what vinyl did they use for it to disintegrate like that?

[Martin Cole]

quote Robert Lambie:

We need to “educate” the customer on quality over price these days when trying to win work because the uneducated Sign, Print or Wrap companies can do nothing else other than sell on price alone, simply because thats as far as their own knowledge goes.

Oh so true..

There is so much tat about about, I cant go a day without seeing a van that looks like it’s been done by someone just out of kinder garden

This though takes the biscuit an absolute shocker as Jon says one of the worst!!
I also have to question the customer thinking 3mm plastic glued to their wall would do the job, especially BLACK..a magnet for the sun.

Shame on who ever did it :shake: The new trays look great Colin :thumbup2:

[Simon Worrall]

Hehehehehehehehehe! 😀 😀 😀 🙄 :shake: (puppy-eyes) :appl:

[Colin Bland]

Hi Fabrice we used aluminium composite matt black, folded into trays and fitted over aluminium angle framework
Colin

[Daniel Evans]

Hi Colin

Any close ups of the corners?

I always think the corners look untidy on folded composite, I’ve not seen a tidy one yet but there must be a way.

[Colin Bland]

I know what you mean
We dont do the 45 degree up the side join we simply router the panel cut a square out of the corner fold up and bond an angle inside the panel.
It takes some attention to detail to get the cut right and to make sure the edges are together before bonding but its worth it
Colin

[Andy Thorne]

Here’s a close up of how we do corners on composite panels Daniel…

And nice job too Colin. Always hearing how someone else is a few pounds cheaper only for the customer to ring back a few weeks later moaning that the delivery had turned up late or was damaged. Cheaper is definitely not always better.

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[Mike Thornley]

As the saying goes, buy cheap, pay twice….

[Simon Worrall]

quote Mike Thornley:

As the saying goes, buy cheap, pay twice….

Or "Cheap at twice the price"

In this case though, they spent two years with a repellant sign, so they probably paid more than ten times in lost customers.

Simon

[Mohammad Esa]

That’s by far the worst ‘sign’ I have ever seen.. Which idiot would even glue it to bricks? I would love to know how much they paid for those signs :/

Great Job Colin, You’ve done a great sign for them :claps: Is there any videos out there explaining how the composite is folded?

[KevinGaffney]

Doesnt bother me seeing crap work, in fact I prefer it. Ultimately means more customers will come to reputable sign people based on the quality of our work rather than price. Its the only kind I’m interested in anymore