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Problems matching Pantone colour refrences.
Hi All,
I’ve just had a 3×3 pop-up refused of the grounds of incorrect colours. We produced it for a larger commercial printers that are notoriously fussy. The quality of the print was good and the construction without a fault. The thing is i’m not 100% sure on where the problem is. That is why i’m asking for your help.
We use a Uniform grenadier with wasatch 6.5 and activasol premium ink.
Could the problem be
1, The Icc profile for the pop – up material is wrong. RH can’t supply a profile for our setup so we use a generic icc profile for a "pull-up" material supplied by B+P.
2, The Printer needs to be completely colour calibrated. This is what i feel need to be done as we have printed out a Pantone colour simulation on vinyl and found the colours to be a few shades off. Does anybody know someone in Scotland that could do this for us ?
I’ve seen the digital colour calibration kits that you can buy and understand a knowledge of this is essential. How easy is it? I’ve a heavy workload as it is and feel that in this case having professional to talk through the process and theory would save time on the trial and error method.
3, A combination of the above and more.
We are getting more and more work from graphic houses and traditional printers wanting to expand there product range and can’t afford to have work rejected.
Your comments are appreciated. Good and bad.
Steve[/list]
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5 Replies
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I think it’s a nightmare trying to match colours on digital print machines.
Even if you have the right profile for the media the colours change depending on what dpi you print at.
It seems you basically have to waste time and media printing out test prints until you hit on something close enough.
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I know. trust me i know. I even resorted to changeing all the colours in the artwork to the nearest pantone match in a Pantone colour simulation printout. This was sort of alright with vector aspects of the print. However, when it came to the raster images we were still off, as the same images was used on all their print literature and some additional pull-ups printed by our client.
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One thing not to be ignored is colour management on your computer. Different displays will display differently if the correct monitor profile is not used. The holy grail is to get the display the same as the output so you can adjust colours with some confidence. If the display is not right it will always be a struggle.
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Stephen I assume your talking spot colours?
If so you will never match them all 100%
Do you have a Pantone ‘Solid to Process’ swatch? I think now called Colour Bridge this will show you that due to Gamut some conversions just aren’t possible.If Bitmaps are way off then I think to need to look at profiles etc.
I don’t run a printer but know you have to look at the whole workflow as any step can throw it out.
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HI Tim,
Yeah we have Pantone swatches. Coated and uncoated. I think in this case it should have been possible to achieve the colours in the artwork.
I know this has been spoken about before on the forums. i’m just looking to ask if someone can recomend a colour managemnet specialist based in Scotland.
Cheers
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