how do i go about screenprinting transfers please?

[graffica]

Hi Andrew.
If you haven´t done screen-printing before, there´s a lot to learn.
Also to set up all the equipment/machinery from scratch is expensive and you´ll need a workshop with lots of space.
In my opinion, far better to sub-contract.
I do a lot of work here for sports teams, particularly football and basketball.
I produce all the numbers and players´names in thermal vinyl cut on a plotter and heat transferred onto the shirt with a heat press.
Same for sponsors´logos if they´re only one or 2 colours. Any more and I use INKJET DARK …. available from Xpres.
Whichever method you choose depends very much on the quantities involved.
A couple of years ago I quoted for Real Madrid CF. Just their first team squad of 22 have a minimum of 30 kits per. player per. season.
Add all the other teams and the other sports within Real Madrid and it´s a huge contract. I didn´t get it, but know the company that did.
If you´re just dealing with local league clubs who have only a couple of kits per. club, thermal vinyl is the way to go.
You can buy pre-cut numbers but they do work out quite pricey in comparison with buying the vinyl and cutting the numbers yourself.

Chris

[ANDREW S]

Thanks for the reply Chris – I meant to explain….
We are cutting simple logos using the film
Inkjet dark thro a Epson R1800

The reason I’m buying in the transfers is some of the multi coloured logos
need no background, which I can’t do with the inkjet dark – unless there
is a application tape of which I can transfer the cut image (-)

or is there a clear material to print onto ?

[Steve Underhill]

You can screen print plastisol ink onto greaseproof paper to make heat transfers, you just spot cure them, then when ready to press them stick in the press for the desired amount of time, saves an absolute fortune as opposed to inkjet dark also its a genuine screen print rather than a plasticky transfer, but as mentined above its expensive to set up, unless you need only 2 or 3 colours then you can set up for about £800-900 ish Id guess

[ANDREW S]

Thanks for that Steve,

It sounds the type of thing I’m looking to do.

Do you have any contacts to suppliers of equipment etc

Cheers
Andrew

[Steve Underhill]

I got my gear of Steve at custom carousels, he sells the ink and all the gear
you can find him on google under red devil products or custom carousels, he showed us how to do it and it looked easy enough even though we haven’t tried yet as were too busy.
if we do soon we will let you know how it goes

[ANDREW S]

quote Steve Underhill:

I got my gear of Steve at custom carousels, he sells the ink and all the gear
you can find him on google under red devil products or custom carousels, he showed us how to do it and it looked easy enough even though we haven’t tried yet as were too busy.
if we do soon we will let you know how it goes

Cheers Steve,
Just been busy on Google, I will check him out. Thanks
for your replies you just might have saved me a fortune ! Thanks a drink
I owe you…………………Milk & Sugar ?
:lol1:

[David_Evans]

Andrew,

When i have a multicolour image with no background i print on inkjet dark, cut and weed then just use clear application tape as a carrier. As long as the printed image is totally dry ive had no probs at all.

Dave

[ANDREW S]

quote David Evans 1210:

Andrew,

When i have a multicolour image with no background i print on inkjet dark, cut and weed then just use clear application tape as a carrier. As long as the printed image is totally dry ive had no probs at all.

Dave

Do you press the image on with tape holding all together ?
my concern with doing that was leaving the glue from the tape
all over the garment….if you get my drift

Cheers
Andrew

[David_Evans]

Andrew,

Yeah i just heat press with it on, remove and give it another 5 seconds. That was my concern at first but a friend of mine said he was doing it so i gave it a try and it worked for me (if in doubt just do a trial of a similar material). Havent used this method for while but im pretty sure it was grafityp (or maybe metamark) app tape.

Dave

[Steve Underhill]

paper app tape or clear?

[David_Evans]

clear stuff

[Steve Underhill]

and it doesnt melt at 150 degrees?
Ill have to try that nice one

[Chris Wool]

just thhinking out loud about trying the sticky backing of garment cut film.
lots of off cuts about to try as application tape and will take the temp

chris

[graffica]

With the Inkjet Dark, it works exactly as David says.
But just to elaborate a bit.
Take off the printed image and spread it print side down onto the adhesive side of clear application tape. (It almost goes without saying that you´ve got to be careful to make sure it´s completely smoothed out.) Then press in the usual way. I do 160 degrees for 10 seconds.
If you want a shiny print, repress for a couple of seconds with the teflon sheet.
This is all OK when the image is in one piece, even with internal cut-outs.
But what about a line of text with separate letters? I´ve yet to find a way
lifting a whole line of text directly from the Inkjet Dark. It can be done using thermal vinyl such as Hotmark on a print and cut plotter.
But does anyone know if this can be done with Inkjet Dark?
Great red devil site. For starting up in screenprinting it looks brilliant value.

Chris

[Steve Underhill]

Had a rep from target transfers in today, he showed me their T shirt transfer paper, its a lot thinner than the Xpres stuff, doesnt stretch as good, but feels more like a sreen print when pressed, does stick to itself also unlike the xpres one, so have to be careful there notherwise it doesnt look too bad, clear app tape melts onto it so thats a no no also.

[Chris Wool]

has anybody tried the new self weed inkjet paper yet.

chris