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    Posted by Ian Muir on November 7, 2009 at 10:35 am

    Hi

    New to print and cut, would like advice on applying bleeds to an image so that cut line if slightly off doesn’t leave a white outline anywhere.

    To give an example…. Design lettering with a pattern fill, apply cutting outline .. up to now I have been outside contouring this line and filling to give a bleed, positive that is not correct way and in any case it would only work on some fills.

    Say if pattern fill was horizontal bands of yellow, green and blue then to apply a contour outline in one colour wouldn’t work well as a bleed.

    So where do I set a bleed distance and hit a bleed button (if that’s what you do), would it be somewhere in Corel, Finecut or Rasterlink?

    Hope the gobble-de-Gook makes sense to someone.

    Thanks

    Ian :lol1:

    Peter Normington replied 14 years, 5 months ago 6 Members · 12 Replies
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  • Chris Wool

    Member
    November 7, 2009 at 12:42 pm

    simples 😀

  • Ian Muir

    Member
    November 7, 2009 at 12:54 pm

    Thanks Chris, very informative…. don’t know where I’d be without certain members of the forum working together like a well greasy (oops, should have been greased) machine…

    Ian :lol1:

  • Stephen Morriss

    Member
    November 7, 2009 at 1:32 pm

    I do just as you’ve described but for the more complicated stuff you have to get your brain into gear and create the bleeds OR just print the outline in the same colour as the background, you’ll need to make some test prints to get it right but is has worked for me in the past.

    Steve

  • Ian Muir

    Member
    November 7, 2009 at 1:44 pm

    You got me thinking here Steve… if there is not a simple ticky box somewhere to ‘clone’ the outer rim of the bitmap (and I think there should be) then… hows about for my example of text with a pattern fill then write text (hairline, no fill), contour outline (2mm should be enough), apply fill to outline not text…. voila, you have a variable colour bleed around the cutable text…………………….. least I think you do :lol1:

    to be even more accurate, if need be, you could fill text again with your pattern i.e. powerclip-fill container……

    Ian :lol1:

  • Chris Wool

    Member
    November 7, 2009 at 1:50 pm

    correct 😀

  • Ian Muir

    Member
    November 7, 2009 at 2:07 pm

    Thanks for the confirmation Chris….. as you originally stated ‘simples’… but it is Saturday in my defense…. off now to go play with some print and cuts… :lol1:

    Ian :lol1:

  • Stephen Morriss

    Member
    November 8, 2009 at 12:01 pm

    Yes that’s how I do it for gradient fills etc. However when you get a complicated design made up from separate parts then it gets harder as you can’t just add an outline to each part as their is always one in front of the other.
    Be nice if there is an easy way, I’ve not found it though 🙂

    Go on Chris, how do you do it?

    Steve

  • Russell Huffer

    Member
    November 8, 2009 at 12:25 pm

    I understand the problems faced with multiple objects, I also used to have a problem with different file types however now Wasactch have updated the RIP to include what they call a tracer, this job is so easy, just drop the file in the RIP and click trace this adds the line and you can change where the line is ie inside or outside and by how much.
    A real good reason to use wasatch as this alone saves hours.

    Regards

    Russell.

  • Alan Drury

    Member
    November 8, 2009 at 4:07 pm

    Not sure this will totally sort your issue but:- put your text string on screen and copy to clip board.
    Add contour to text at your desired bleed amount
    Break contour group apart
    Delete text
    Fill contour shape with fountain/texture
    Paste original text onto original position
    Remove fill and make outline your cut contour name/colour
    Export for print and cut as normal.

    For logos or non text objects – group before applying contour

    I can’t test this end but should work in theory

    Alan D

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    November 8, 2009 at 9:26 pm
    quote Russell-H:

    I understand the problems faced with multiple objects, I also used to have a problem with different file types however now Wasactch have updated the RIP to include what they call a tracer, this job is so easy, just drop the file in the RIP and click trace this adds the line and you can change where the line is ie inside or outside and by how much.
    A real good reason to use wasatch as this alone saves hours.

    Regards

    Russell.

    Signlab has been doing this for years, but for vectors not bitmaps
    bleed is easily done for vectors in signlab, so Ian all you need to do is upgrade

    Wassach will not add bleed!

    posted a pic of what I think tou are trying to achieve in off topics

    https://www.uksignboards.com/viewtopic.p … 358#349358
    Peter

  • Stephen Morriss

    Member
    November 9, 2009 at 9:26 am

    Hi Pete

    Corel can also do that quite easily as it’s a fill but what about a vector image say a union jack flag or something more complicated like clip art.

    Steve

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    November 9, 2009 at 9:48 am

    Steve, it would do it the same
    Posted another pic of a flag

    Peter

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