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  • Am I being an Ar** hole?

    Posted by Martyn Heath on August 26, 2024 at 1:11 pm

    Hi chaps. Whats your thoughts on my mentality at the moment? ๐Ÿ™‚

    So i have a lorry to fit tomorrow. Tomorrow is the only window to do this lorry. Its been booked for weeks.

    Design was approved last week and i ordered the vinyl which arrived friday. I opened the package, looked a the colours to make sure its all there. Today i start to cut the graphics and by chance as im loading the 5m of matt black i notice the backing is Mactac 8300, thats funny cuz i ordered 9800. Check my order and yes they have sent out the wrong stuff, not suitable for this job. So having sworn my way through the dictionary i then spend an hour trying to change the artwork, break the logo down into parts so i can cut it out of scrap pieces of 3m wrap i have here. Then on site tomorrow the job it going to take twice as long as its now a jigsaw puzzle.

    So anyway i’m pissed. Contact the supplier and obviously “dont know how that happened, we will give you a refund..”.

    Well am i wrong in thinking that aint good enough. Ive had it with peoples mistakes and sorry just doesnt cover it. If i make a mistake, dont pay a bill on time etc etc what happens is i get charged money, everything costs money.

    So im looking to send them an invoice for the difference in cost of film that i’ve had to use, wrap instead of polymeric and also a few hours of my time. Sick to death of it.

    Obviously they are not going to pay and i dont have the buying power to hold them to account.

    Anyway, maybe this helps me a little because i’m running out of things to kick

    David Hammond replied 3 weeks, 1 day ago 6 Members · 7 Replies
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  • David Stevenson

    Member
    August 26, 2024 at 8:08 pm

    This probably isn’t going to help but we can all make mistakes, unfortunately no ones perfect (except me). I’d just take it on the chin, get the job sorted and carry on. Yes it’s a pain in the a4rse that it happens, sh1t happens on occasions. Frustrating and all as it is I find it’s sometimes it’s easier on the mind just to let it pass. I’ve spent too many nights sitting at home with my family frying my head with work stuff that doesn’t deserve a second thought. We’ve just had to replace part of a large sign that the customer didn’t like after it was fitted. This was after she sat with us in the office and seen samples of how her sign would be put together. The job was worth ยฃ2300 which included a decent profit. Replacing the parts she didn’t like set us back about 300 quid. It wasn’t ideal but she’s happy and not bad mouthing us around our relativity small town. The signs in a prime location with thousands of vehicles passing it daily. We’ll not be long in making the ยฃ300 back I’m fairly certain

  • RobertLambie

    Administrator
    August 26, 2024 at 11:29 pm

    There is nothing worse, Martyn. I am very busy at the moment and I am experiencing similar to you, mate, deep breaths! ๐Ÿ˜ฌ
    Suppliers, Manufacturers, Installers etc. all F**k up at some point, “as do we all”. ๐Ÿคจ
    The key is how well the supplier deals with fixing the problem that they have created for you!
    Ranting down the phone won’t make you feel better and will only spoil your business relationship with the company. And the reality is, that the person on the phone “might” not be to blame, it could be some lad in the warehouse doing the picking, converting, boxing, or even the delivery that is to blame. So all the ranting and energy is towards the wrong person.

    Pictures, or even a phone video and sending it to your customer via WhatsApp or email, showing the box, the I.D. label, and vinyl series while saying “You are trying to manufacture their graphics for the installation and on opening the box, it is the wrong material that has arrived, and you just wanted to let them know ASAP of the situation, and can you reschedule a new day to fit the graphics” they may surprise you and say that it is not a problem. then when you do finish the job, stick a bottle of wine or whiskey on the front seat apologising for the inconvenience. Small gestures go a long way, and let’s hope your vinyl supplier empathises with your situation and is as generous.

    As for sending an invoice and ranting via a letter. I would save your energy mate, it will only alienate you from that supplier should you ever need their products again in future.
    The best thing you can do is to source your products elsewhere and keep them as a secondary source.
    They will chap your door, or give you a call at some point asking why you no longer buy from them or if you are interested in their new products or whatever. at that point, you can explain why.

    None of what I have said is getting your job done on time, I appreciate that. But at least you have dealt with it as professionally as you can.

    Now that said, if they are a local company, drive by their place late at night and use your OLFA knife on the side-wall of all the delivery vehicle tyres. ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ I am Joking of course, Honest! ๐Ÿ˜

  • Martyn Heath

    Member
    August 27, 2024 at 4:47 am

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    Thanks for the response guys. You are all correct and i know its not the salesman’s fault but like you say someone in the warehouse. Reality is if i hadn’t saved my own arse i would now be losing the contract with massive effects on my business. I am a man of my word and never let people down so its frustrating when your business model is effected by outside sources. Like you say thats life and take it on the chin.

    Anyway i better get over to fit this lorry!

    Have a good week chaps

  • Phill Fenton

    Member
    August 27, 2024 at 7:31 pm

    Yes I know how frustrating this can be, that’s why I always try and makes sure I order vinyl well ahead of time and (crucially) check when it arrives that the right vinyl has been sent. Same applies to when buying in any products such as chapter 8 kits etc. As others have already said, no point in getting upset by it all. No one has died. And at the end of the day we all strive and do our best to avoid letting anyone down. Your supplier probably feels the same even though it was a picking error of some sort in the warehouse and nothing to do with your sales contact. You’re probably mad at yourself for not checking the delivery when it arrived so don’t beat yourself up about it.

  • Graham Scanlan

    Member
    August 28, 2024 at 4:45 am

    Phill, you are spot on, check your goods when they arrive, and stock more of what you sell.

    We all make mistakes and having the time to put them right is often a luxury, but every little process in between can help.

  • Martyn Heath

    Member
    August 28, 2024 at 4:59 am

    yes i have always got larger jobs like this ready a few days before fitting, just incase. In 20 years this is the first time I’ve made the graphics the day before which made me uncomfortable but late design decisions caused this. So all this time i thought i was being a “stress in a dress” getting jobs ready ahead of time but seems i was right.

    Anyway like you say, no one has died (only because the supplier is 3hrs away ๐Ÿ™‚ the job got done and my customer was chuffed so on to fight another battle.

  • David Hammond

    Member
    August 28, 2024 at 12:02 pm

    Yes s**t happens, but it’s nice when suppliers hold their hands up and try and resolve it.

    A friend of mine ordered a roll of media in anticipation of a last minute order, went to collect it from the unit, no delivery. Calls the supplier and asks that it be put on a pre-noon for Tuesday to be told “we can try but can’t guarantee anything”, arrives at the unit again no delivery, resulting in a last minute dash to a local supplier to get a roll of media, leaving the printer running unattended, and returning late in the evening to finish it ready for the courier collection today, and delivery tomorrow to London.

    The original supplier doesn’t seem to give a hoot about that… if he let that one customer down on that one job, they’d likely not return to him for future projects.

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